You have two choices: Do you want America to WIN or to LOSE? Because one will happen.

LMAO. Bush already lost. Too bad there wasn't a real leader running this war.

Of course we want to win. But to win, you need leadership.

The question is of no help. The answer is already clear.

What can we do to win? Define win.

What bullshit rhetoric. Trying to simplify a complex issue.

 

I think the question is very simple - it is asking a personal question to you - "Do YOU want the USA to Win or lose?"

It is a good starting point IMO, to help figure out why people argue certain things. Leet wants the USA to lose - why? Then we can go deeper into the discussion like you are saying - maybe leet thinks (for whatever reason) that the USA is in Iraq to kill normal Iraqies - maybe he thinks (like gworld) that the less than 1% of our military represents ALL our military so we are there to rape and murder.

Maybe leet is a muslim extremist who hates infidels and practices what the koran teaches him - if so that would be a perfect explanation to why he want the US to lose (go and read his other posts!)

 

America HAS already lost, infront of the eyes of the world.

 

BACK on topic....

Why. I said in my OP to state WHY you vote what you do. You cannot just say "I hope they lose" without any reason to support your opinion. If you have no reason to support your opinion, then in my books, it makes you an ignorant liberal. In this case, it makes you an enemy to the country because they guys that we're fighting want us to lose too.

No. Keeping terrorists hiding and unable to organize any effective attacks and regmies: Win.

This war is not about Iraqis.

Don't put words into my mouth... nobody is assuming that (I hope) except YOU.

Kudos for "daft" - funny word But seriously - no Weapon FACTORIES and the fact that Saddam Hussein let Al Qaeda and other terrorists roam free in his country is a good reason to go to war. Did you know that intelligence suggests the 9/11 hijackers traveled through Iraq to get into our country after their flight training here? (Came here, got trained, went back, came back here to attack.)

I agree, actually.

Let me ask you this: Who is more dangerous:

Person A) who targets civilians and wants to kill as many as possible, and does not run any government policy, so this person A can hide and go wherever he wants,

or...

Person B) the man who has the guts unlike our last President to take these guys out of order and push them into the caves?


Let me know which YOU think is more of a threat.

While you're at it, stop by the body shop and get your head screwed on straight.

Debunked handled your post pretty well. I just want to reinforce what he said and add some of my own stuff.... so... can you offer a suggestion instead of just sit there in front of your computer screen like a hobo and complain all the time?

I did earlier in this post.

This is much less than complex, my fiend. (eh, I mean, friend. ) Don't make this harder than it is. It's a basic question of right vs. wrong.



Can anybody who replies to my post please actually reply to at LEAST several excerpts of it? I don't want anybody to ignore all my post and only reply to one part and make themselves look dumber

 

Eyes of the world or just... YOUR ... eyes?

Regardless, that's not the issue here. The question is, do you WANT us to win? Or lose?

No grounds for your statement, yet again.... I see... just another ignorant liberal (Terrorists admit that they are the ones losing.)

 

@chulium, yea back to the topic. I apologise for samantha_pia's stupidity.

Well, to answer why, I would say I just don't really believe in USA's Iraq politics. I don't think USA army is there to fight with terrorism.

ps: Thanks whoever deleted all those off-topic messages.

 

So... simply because you disagree with the United States' war policy, you want us to LOSE? That's pretty critical, there....

 

Dude, its on leets profile he is from turkey

I would lke to hear though why anyone who would be frequenting a seo/web dev forum would want us to lose

I don't see how even people from other countries would want another extremist muslim state, even if your muslim.

 

I don't want anyone to die, I don't think all those soldiers go there because they want but because they're supposed to execute orders. If USA was really fighting with terrorrism, why do they support PKK in Iraq still? Why do they keep being by PKK's side although they made an agreement with Turkey to clean PKK from Iraq?

Btw, I hate extremist Muslims and states. All they ever did is making people think all Muslims are terrorrist. They don't even go by Koran's rules even though they say so. Islam is religion of peace. They call what they do as jihad, but no one here sees a point of jihad in their terrorrist actions all over the world. Don't forget, they bombed HSBC bank in Turkey, and we lost many Turkish people here. Do you really think I like them or what?

 

probably because the kurds are our only allies in Iraq?

 

And then why do you keep playing for both sides? Why don't you just agree with one of them? Turkey or Kurds? We call this hypocrisy here.

 

And I answered yes. But it's moronic to simplify the question as you have.

 

I don't understand the question. Win or Lose what, specifically?

 

What's the point of accusing my question as moronic if you don't tell me WHY it's moronic? And you can't answer "yes" to this type of question. Shows you how smart YOU are...

More or less, the war that we are fighting.

 

exactly...we are there to fight against terrorism....I think you may have it backwards...the way you have it worded sounds like you are pulling for the terrorist?

 

And that pretty much sums up what I've been saying for a long time. For liberals, it's about hatred for Bush. They would rather sell out their country by hoping for a loss, because anything good in their eyes would be good for Bush. It's too bad they can't separate the two.

 

he is. maybe you dont know leet enough yet

 

@d16man, read my post #30 on this topic, I don't support terrorrism at all. I'm the citizen of a country who lost its thousands of people because of PKK terrorrism.

 

Not much to agree on there. There is nothing peaceful about islam. There are some peaceful muslims, despite the teachings of the quran. I believe many Iraqis are such, as are many from your country and around the world.

If you hate "extremist" muslims and states, how do you reconcile wanting al qaida to win in Iraq? If you want the US to lose (which it hasn't nor will it), then you want terrorists in Iraq to take over and form the very extremist state you claim to hate. How does one reconcile that sort of cognitive dissonance?

Obviously we have some *democrats* here, who are more than anxious to declare a win for terrorists, but I'm curious to why your views clash head on with each other.