I have been doing some SEO work for a client. He recently replaced my services with that of a new super SEO guy. I am sure I can still learn a thing or two from superior SEO consultants that me but I wonder if anyone in this forum can tell me how this new super SEO guy manages to get a site (which I allegedly have not done any work on hence its PR0 and has not back links. But the guy told the client that help is at hand, he has not listed the site in Google, it now has PR4 and back links (all this in one day). I refused to speak to this guys as he is far superior to me, and when people can perform miracles like he apparently did, I think mere mortal like me are not worthy of speaking to such gurus. Perhaps there are other gurus who can perform the feat this guy achieved in this forum, I will like to hear how you can get and instant PR4 in Google in a day and also have the site listed and appear on SERP all in one day. Or even if this Guru himself visits this forum, please tell me how you achieve this amazing feat.
No, its not fake PR, they guy is just taking credits for work I did but the client is not SEO aware enough to know that the guy's claims that he got the site listed and got the PR on the site etc are false. I build all the backlinks and got the site to be PR4 over about 5 months or so.
.. hmm.. coincidence? I do not believe that anyone can make the PR / SERP of a site changes very much in one single day..
well, tough luck. if i were you, i would at least try to explain to the customer. whether it succeeds or not is another matter. you owe that to yourself at least.
I did try to explain and even ask him to seek and independent impartial opinion but somehow he seem to have been brainwashed by the new "Search engine magician" I am actually suprised that anyone with the faintest ideas about how search engine works will make such and outrageous claim.
Hard luck dear! But as DB said above try to talk to the client and let him know that it was you who did all the work! Well you could also try to show him something valuable some rankings that "big guru" might not know... as you did the work....isn't it?
I have given up on trying to convince the client I did the work, good luck to him and his "guru" I have better things to do with my time. You can only convince someone with open mind, not someone who has been brainwashed and refuse to listen or try to use the tools I suggested to him to use to do some independent verification.
i think it is not possible. i mean in just one day? that fast? congrats if that's the case... but i guess it might change the next day.
go on, you can't waste all your time trying to convince him, anyway, it is a bad client if he can't understand, and you will probably have problems with him again if you continue with him.
nope how can it be never,may be fake pr but that may also be coincidence,may be the same day google update PR
Sounds to be impossible for PR as it takes time for google to find all of the backlinks, although with a lot of luck I'm sure it could happen in the serps in one day. When I was an online gambling affiliate one of my domains went from new purchase to #1 in google for the serp category I had purchased it for in 2 1/2 days. Takes a lot of luck for one of the serp engines to find it, index it, and rank it in such a short time. Unfortunately your ex-client doesn't know that toolbar PR doesn't change daily and takes time. He probably doesn't know anything about SEO that's why you were hired, and by this doesn't understand that his new "SEO Guru" is taking credit for your accomplishments.
The only things that i can think of are : 1. Fake PR , 2. Google update on the next day that he hired the super seo dude.
Super SEO dude got lucky by the sounds of it. If he took over the account at the time Google did a PR update, then he's effectively taking credit for your work. But I think the problem is not that the site has PR0 or PR4, but that the site isn't selling anything. Nobody complains about PR if sales are doing well. The new super SEO will need to prove that they can generate business for the site, just like anyone else. We all lose clients from time to time, and the problem is not usually the quality of your work, but the quality of your communication with the client. Maybe they didn't understand that SEO takes time, and they can't expect an instant flood of buyers unless their site is exceptional. Maybe they aren't seeing any shift in rankings / traffic / sales so they assume you aren't working hard? Your job to keep them informed as to what is happening, and you need to budget time for this. We often find 20% of the project time can easily go into client communications - and this time is definitely billable, though for some reason many clients think hours of phone calls, meetings and emails should be a freebie. I would suggest you are far better to leave this client alone than to spend time trying to educate them about PR. You aren't going to get this work back unless the new SEO stuffs something up, and that won't happen for several months. So my advice is to move on. Make sure you invoice them for all outstanding work, and don't waste any more time on it.
Yeah, better move on. No use talking about an ex client when you could focus on getting new clients and helping them. A happy client could surely get you more clients so concentrate on them.