Is Muqtada al-Sadr on the run?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by britishguy, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. Rick_Michael

    Rick_Michael Peon

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    #21
    Yeah, I guess the answer will differ. I woudn't mind hearing your thoughts on both...

    Not sure of that. I think Al-Maliki wasn't prepared to politically separate himself from Sadr...and routinely prevented our forces from going in certain areas. It's difficult to say why they avoided taking him out immediately or even if they could. Remember the other Al-Queda radical took a while to take -out, but he was not protected in any way by the government.

    Al-Maliki...is said to have given us a thumbs up to enter any province which we think is a danger to our troops.

    Could be. A lot of the leaders within his crew are either in US hands or are killed. So who knows. Perception of enemies usually start off friendly then end up the opposite.
     
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  2. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #22
    i am not liberal but
    if he was dead yes
    if he goes to iran no
    we have to at least know where he is at all time
     
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  3. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #23
    An Iraqi official came out today and said that Al Sadr is in Iran, visiting "family"...

    Link
     
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  4. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #24
    It really makes no difference. If he was dead, he would be replaced by the next person in line. If he is in Iran, his future will depend on what will happen in Iraq. These people can wait, they have no where to go. Look at Talibani and Al-Maliki, they were living in Iran and where are they now? In Iraq as President and Prime minister. These people can wait 10-20 years and it costs them nothing, can USA do that with at least $200,000,000,000 dollars/ year in cost?
    What everybody has to understand that this war is not about this person or that person and how many people will be killed, it is about finding a political solution that results in a sustainable government.
     
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  5. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Actually, I think it would matter....can you off the top of your head, without looking it up, name who zarqarwi's replacement was? Neither can anyone else...because the figure head is now gone...just imagine if we got osama, how big of a difference would it make....I think it would be huge...
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #26
    I think Osama (the real Osama) is dead mate.

    He was only the patsy for 9/11, catching Osama now, even if he was alive would make no difference at all buddy.

    It would be like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.

    If they do decide to "find" Osama at any stage they better not use Osama E as they did in the past as he looks nothing like the real Osama!!! [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #27
    You think so because you are a moron. Who cares what is the name of the replacement for zarqawi or the guy after this one is? The question is if the situation got better or worse after killing him and I think every one can agree that it just got worse. :rolleyes:
     
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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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  9. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #29
    Not everyone can agree...I don't think it would get worse...I think catching him would make it better...no one has yet to step up to the plate to replace zarqarwi...they claim that they "elected" someone, but you don't see all the beheadings, do you? no, instead you see them killing more iraqis, instead of more revenge on americans. Do you realize that the additonal troops are going to curtail sectarian violence? Probably not....in trying to do so, it is sad that we have seen a rise in coalition deaths recently, but those can be associated with trying to curb the violence among iraqis...better do your research before calling me a moron again...besides, how childish can you be?
     
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    #30
    :rolleyes:

    Just read the bold parts and try to tell us that you are not a moron. :rolleyes:
     
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  11. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #31

    you bolded some of my stuff, which showed it out of context....I'm not sure why you are calling me a moron???
     
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    #32
    Everything that you post is out of context and that is the reason. :D
     
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  13. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Then why don't you bold all my posts? Like al-Sadr...you have to run and only fight the battles which fit your liking. In this last post you contradicted the very thing you did in your previous post...can you explain that contradiction please? Al-Sadr is for the Iraqi PM, but against the US...that is also a contradiction, care to explain his argument as well?
     
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  14. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #34
    Iraq president Talabani started as a rich student who became socialist and fought against Saddam. He moved to Iran and start working with Iranians. He fought other Kurdish groups over control of Drug trade and made peace with Saddam and helping him. After that he made peace with other Kurdish groups and start working for Americans. He is president of Iraq and most likely still works for both CIA and Iran's secret service.;)

    Al-Malaki was living in Iran and is Shia. Most likely on the payroll of Iranian government on that time. He works for Americans now and he is the prime minister of Iraq. He will be a prime minister as long as Americans wish to keep this puppet. He knows that he needs some support both as bargaining chips against his masters and also if they decide to drop him, Al-Sadar provides that support. Al-Sadar and his gang also can serve as Al-Malaki death squad if he needs to get his hands dirty and massacre his opposition.

    Al-Sadar is a street tug who controls his gang and the street but has no political respectability, needs an allay in corridor of powers. Al-Malaki can include him in the government and be his voice and allay until he finds another solution.

    Are these people friends or even like each other? Not necessarily. Each one finds the other useful at present time and they can kill each other at a drop of a hat. These people change their alliances more often than other people change their underwear. Welcome to middle east politics. ;)
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #35
    Proof please?
    Proof please?


    How do you know this, source please?

    And just in case you missed my last post, why not bold all of mine, if, as you say, I am the moron?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #37
    It is clear that trying to discuss and explain something for you is a waste of time, so I do as you wish, I bold everything and also changed the color of the important parts of your post to red.
     
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    #39
    Whatever else the US intended when it invaded Iraq in 2003 it was not to hand power to an Islamic militant in a black turban who denounces Washington and Israel in the same breath. The claim by two American officials yesterday that Muqtada al-Sadr, the radical Shia nationalist cleric, has left for Iran is a measure of how far the US would like to see him out of the Iraqi political scene.
    http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/48087/
    This is an interesting story about Muqtada al-Sadr giving a background profile of this cleric and his family history
     
    britishguy, Feb 16, 2007 IP
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #40
    it seems like twilight zone but here we go
    here is the link
    http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/48053/
    edit i agree that us did not want to have a relationship with sadr
     
    pizzaman, Feb 16, 2007 IP