Sin causes imperfections. Imperfections lead to a lot of problems in a lot of areas. Adam and Eve had free will. Then they chose to sin. Now our free will is crippled. We do choose our actions. We just tend to choose poorly more often than not. The reason is purely moral. God defines what "sin" is so if you reject God then you're not going to accept that moral guideline. If you want to look at it from a humanistic standpoint, genetically speaking, gay people are a result of a bad genetic mutation. From an evolutionary standpoint it's a bad thing. Muscular Dystrophy is also "natural" Not everything that is natural is good. It was good until sin entered the world. Then nature changed from being all good to not all good. From the verse I quoted it's obvious that being gay is not necessarily a guarenteed ticket to hell. Like any other sin, it can be overcome. Just because you have a genetic tendency towards alchoholism doesn't give you an excuse to be an alchoholic. It is possible to overcome genetic defects.
If you want to look at it from a humanistic standpoint, genetically speaking, gay people are a result of a bad genetic mutation. From an evolutionary standpoint it's a bad thing. Muscular Dystrophy is also "natural" Wait, I don't understand Kalvin, so your saying that homosexuality is inherited From the verse I quoted it's obvious that being gay is not necessarily a guarenteed ticket to hell. Like any other sin, it can be overcome. than you say its just a sin... Just because you have a genetic tendency towards alchoholism doesn't give you an excuse to be an alchoholic. It is possible to overcome genetic defects. Than you say that we can overcome this... Why should we try to overcome homosexuality when you were born that way and you arn't doing any direct harm to anyone. Why is it a big deal ?
Humans are imperfect. Sin does not cause imperfection per se, rather, sin and incompleteness is imperfection. Our free will is not crippled; we have it just as freely as Adam and Eve did. The rest of what you said I actually mostly agree with. That's rare between you and me ;P
If you reject the moral laws of the Christian God then there is no reason to try to stop acting on your homosexual tendencies.
Well that is very true Kalvin, once if you choose to reject the moral laws, there is no more reason to stop acting upon it.
Ah, so the reason is "Godsaysso". (Or, as I prefer, "Oldbooksaysso") That's a very simplistic way of looking at things. Evolution has no "goal". One could argue that because homosexuality is in the gene pool of approximately 10% of humans (and other proportions in a number of other species), it is successful. It may well be beneficial - or have been beneficial - to certain communities of organisms. By the way, are animals also sinners? Does sin cause genetic mutations in penguins and fruit flies that makes them homosexual? If not, what does cause the genetic mutations in these animals, and why can the same cause not be attributed to homosexuality in humans?
It's a great way to control the population. Maybe homosexuality is nature's failed attempt at asexuality. Maybe one of these days a human will procreate all by themselves. In a perfect world they wouldn't need to since every man and woman would have a perfect mate. Bisexuals step it up a notch by doubling their chances of getting laid. However they also fail because they do not double the chances of procreating. Nature has to adapt because it's not perfect. Why does one have to sin in order to be affected by sin? Cells have no soul, no morality and yet they decay and die because of sin. Bad things don't always happen because you did something. Bad things happen because the world is not perfect.
So are animals sinners then? Why are there homosexual penguins? Because they are magically affected by human sin? And God wears tartan slippers. See, I can make entirely unqualified statements too. I was always taught cells died due to apoptosis.
Anyone on here that honestly thinks that "sin causes mutations" needs to take a 7th grade science class. Give me a break.
imperfections cause mutations. If everything was perfect there'd be no need to mutate now would there? In fact, it would be impossible to mutate. If everything was perfect there would be no decay. No decay equals no death. Sin brought imperfection into the world and all the problems that come with it. Nobody ever claimed that sin directly causes mutation.
So why do you think death came about? Why do you think there are wars and murder, etc? Or is that just all part of evolution? The way things are supposed to be.
KalvinB, why do stars explode? Why do atoms decay? Why does the vaccum of space occasionally split into particle-antiparticle pairs? Is that sin at work, too?
You didn't answer my question: Why is there death? It is just a natural unavoidable thing or did something go wrong at some point and now things falls apart? Will evolution ever overcome death and decay?
Because of entropy. Everything breaks down eventually. Order becomes disorder. It's an inescapabable fact of the universe.
It sure doesn't have anything to do with "sin". Organic materials naturally decay because of oxidation. This all happens because the universe is complex and self balancing, not because of some divine being.