If God/Allah Forgives Me I Will Go To Heaven: What Do You Think

I have never thought that, the notion that a higher being created all that you see is as ridiculous as believing Alice in Wonderlad is a true story, or taking the stories of Santa Claus as fact, ridiculous.

 

Unfortunately for you it is ridiculous in your mind and no room for sound reasoning. Put it this way. We will all find out soon enough.

Col

 

If robots become sufficiently intelligent - will they believe human created them ?

 

Not if programmed in PHP

 

Being a star trek fan really corrupt my faith.
Sometime, I imagine that aliens come to visit us and claim that their are god(s) to us.
They lived with us for a while, teach us new things (that they thing can better our live), then left us.
Then come another alien, teach us again a new things.
Then another. Then another.

Really, I need to stop watching star trek.

 

Yep. Those Daleks will get you every time!!

Col

 

coming from a Jehovah's witness, that is fucking fresh, youre talking about sound reasoning, your cult dictates that you let your children die because of your beliefs and irrational fears - rather than give them a blood transfusion and you're actually so brainwashed by this that you understand it to be a reasonable way to behave, that makes me physically feel sick.

 

i was banned from here for saying that.

 

Nice language there. Have a dictionary per chance? Try looking up the word "Cult". Sorry to inform you that in no way do Jehovah's Witnesses fit that description. You are the one who is confused about others.

On the blood issue: You have to understand the blood issue my friend. Have you talked to any surgeon or blood specialist lately? You do know that there more and more hospitals that are going 100% bloodless surgery now? There's many reasons blood transfusions should not be performed. You keep stating how smart you are but where's the evidence of this. I know you are a great PHP coder but how did you come to know about PHP? Study? If so, why not study up on blood transfusions before shooting your mouth off at something you obviously know nothing about?

I am not surprised you feel sick. This world has polluted your mind so much you refuse to listen to reasoning. I can see your mind has closed off anything that does not sit right with your way of thinking without actually talking to the very people you are closing it off to.

No wonder society is the way it is today. I feel sorry that you have to attack without reason.

Col

 

would God allow robots to take over the earth??

 

I know enough, I'm aware of the rules views / beliefs / opinions surrounding it, and I'm also aware that sometimes blood substitutions just won't do and the only option is a blood transfusion, I'm also aware that you wouldn't allow your child to live if this was the case, you would cold blooded murder them, stop people doing thier jobs, and force them to live with the fact they were involved in the murder of an innocent child, a child that was never given the option of life becuase thier parents made a poorly informed decision based on centuries old notions.

I had reason, don't go questioning other peoples abilities to make reasonable decisions and listen to reason when you're so clearly not able to do that for yourself.

 

I don't think you have learned enough about it then. Cold blooded murder is a very offensive statement and is stupendous. So, you apply this thinking to all jobs? What about the SS. Would you apply this to them? Could have saved millions of people when you think about it.

You only think these decisions are poorly informed. You have no idea the amount of education we have about blood. If blood transfusions are so important (according to you) then why are hospitals phasing it out? I can tell you why. It's dangerous. It's risking life taking in other people's blood and unnecessary. The percentage rates from deaths versus life for blood transfusions say it all. It completely outweighs it. Of course, hospital administration will never tell you this because why? Oh! Of course. Blood = money. Yes. There's millions if not billions of $$ in the blood market. Oh! How surprising is this? Not very.

The lies that have been told about blood is completely unforgivable. And you have the nerve to accuse us of being cold blooded murderers?? Please!!

Col

 

Of course it's offensive, they aren't and never will be my actions though, the same cannot be said for you.

So medicine found a way to save your children sometimes, but like I said, they are some situations where substitutions aren't a viable option, they dont work quick enough, sometimes only blood will do, and in that situation you're the monster not me.

Even though I do not believe in any of this nonsense, I would rather spend one second with my child and an eternity in the firey depths of hell than allow them to die and go to heaven, in no circumstance should you have the right to take a childs life, your life is your lookout but an innocent child should be left to doctors untill they are old enough to make a properly informed decision for themselves.

 

Who said anything about going to heaven or hell? This has nothing to do with that (even though hell does not exist). It has everything to do with life and death. I respect your opinion on spending time with your children. But Joe, what if the doctors are poorly informed? Ever thought about that? You would rather put your child's life in some man's hands that you have no idea where and when he got his certification to make decisions? Joe, by that itself you are showing blind faith in something.

Well, when it comes to doing what is right. I'll gladly be called a monster in your eyes. At least my conscious is clear and well informed at that!

Col

 

now you're saying doctors are poorly informed, you're making up nonsense, the reason you would let your children die is because of your blind faith, nothin else.

and not just my eyes, you honestly think the people around you would accept that situation as your decision, while everyone is happy to pretend that they respect your faith, they'll have a much harder time should you take away a life for no good reason, and there could never be a good reason.

 

I believe this conversation is heading nowhere Joe. If you think I have blind faith then you are even more foolish than I first thought you were. You have no idea who I am, what my background is, what I have learned, what I have seen or heard and yet, you accuse me of having blind faith. Just the sought of empty headedness I expect from someone with a big mouth and nothing to back it up.

As I said before. We will all know the truth about these matters soon enough.

Col

 

Straight back at ya ...

Just because you're not listening doesn't mean nothin is being said .....

and again, straight back at ya ......

 

God would need a supercomputer to keep track of everyones sins and their requests to be forgiven

 

maybe the same server that google uses.
We are just a character in the multiplayer rpg game.
See the matrix and 13th floor movies.

 

God created humans and humans created supercomputers... You can't even imagine what God can do... He makes things out of nothing... Nobody can stand agains God's will...

Recall Tsunami and major earthquakes that wiped out entire cities that were created by humans...