PR4 & Top 10 too easy? I got them in 14 days!

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by jhnrang, Feb 8, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hi DP-ers

    I- set up my BLOG on 25th January--- and today I checked the stats--I had 217 uniqes in Jan, 266 in Feb as of now,

    PR4 prediction according to SELFSEO

    And top 10 placing of my key phrase in all search engines including Goggle (it does not show in tools--as my site is really new, but when i type it on google search bar, my site is placed on 6th place). My keyword/phrase has a modest competition of only 5 million :D

    The SECRET behind this?

    Well I did everything myself ---and built links with pint point accuracy which resulted in very high rate of acceptance by all. I don't think it is a big success yet--but I can easily push myself to top on all SEs. Only holding back due to fear of the SANDBOX or BLOOP.

    I'll definitely have PR5 by next update in April amd work towards it at the end of this month.

    Now the lession is----

    Is it too easy to get high PR5PR -as it seems to me? How important is PR compared to selling sidewise ads and its rates?

    And is 5 million KW competition too modest?

    How valuable is my domain now?---as I can easily get PR6 within April with some effort and .......

    I would also like to know opinions -if I'll face any repercussions if I take PR6 at the very fist update!

    All views and criticism really appreciated becaue:D :D
     
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  2. frankcow

    frankcow Well-Known Member

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    #2
    View: predicted PR mean absolutely nothing at all. Report back here when you actually have PR

    Criticism: never heard of pint point accuracy. Is that the level of accuracy after a drink or two?
     
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  3. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    Sorry--about pint point--it should actually have been "pin point"

    Unfortunately being Thusrday--today is dry day where I live! Sorry to disappoint you mate!
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #4
    PR prediction tools are worthless - they almost always guess on the high side. It doesn't mean you won't get the PR, but forget about wasting your time with them and concentrate on getting relevant links. PR won't help you rank any better if the links aren't from relevant sites.

    The number of results google returns for your keywords is a pretty useless number - use the DP keyword suggestion tool to see how many people actually search for the keyword a day. You can have keywords that less than 10 people or less even search for. Don't use "quotes" when you check your keywords.

    If you have a keyword that actually gets searches, then look at the top ten sites - that is your competition, not the other zillion who have the keyword on their site. A top 50 ranking isn't going to bring you any traffic.

    You might have to wait a long time before you will be able to rank for any highly competitive keyword on google (age of domain is an important factor with google) so make sure you also target less competitive keywords.

    Unless you are getting a lot of traffic, income is going to determine how much your site is worth.
     
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    uttoransen Prominent Member

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    #5
    i have checked several tools before, non of them are good.
    some tools says pr7+ predected, for my pr0 blog, so i have stopped testing those junk any more.
    this one just takes a lot of time, i have typed in all these rubbish, still your pr checker has not displayed any result, am on broadband 2mbps and am still waiting...........
    atlease it says all pr0 will be pr0. thanks!:mad:
     
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  6. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    Thanks mjewel --your advices are very valuable--yes--I choose very non -competitive keyword/phrase that shows only 5 million . I have not yet checked though how many people searches with that keyword.

    But I receved just 15 people yesterday (when I came on the front page) and 14 today so far .
     
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  7. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #7
    Checked my keyword for traffic relevance and found an embarrasingy low figure(5k)---but NO PROBLEM, I can easily reach to my targetted group and can always optimise later for other terms.

    frankcow & mjewel,

    Me best regards to both of you---but is not PR related to backlinks and their quality? If you have quality/relevant/stable high PR value backlinks--no need to worry about anything--YOU WILL SURELY GET HIGH PR--thats what I know.
    And my BLOG already has a good number of HIGH VALUE backlinks according to IWEBTOOL
     
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    kojakfilth Notable Member

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    #8

    I agree that pr5 is very easy to achieve i just test it by myself. Just 2 pr5 sitewide link pointing to your site then your site will have a quality pr5 in the next update.. :D

    Experiment it at your own risk.. :)
     
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  9. jhnrang

    jhnrang Notable Member

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    Yep---I agree with you about the risk factor---that is why I am not going for it immediately:p
     
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  10. SkGold

    SkGold Peon

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    #10
    The most important is to have top 10 positions in serps for keywords that people searching for. So, it is always better to do keyword research first.
    PR is playing small part in site ranking. You can easily to fake PR. Why people are always talking about PR all the time?

    jhnrang, try to archive the top 10 for the more competitive keywords like “India” or “India Culture” for example. If you will find this easy let us know. It will be interesting to see.
     
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  11. LaCabra

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    Can you share your Blog's URL? I would like to verify your observations first hand!

    thanks
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #12
    Getting a high PR is easy - but it won't help you rank any better or bring you more traffic. Relevant links from authority (sites that already rank well for the sector) will improve your SERPS. PR is 100% determined by backlinks to your site. Content doesn't matter - Age doesn't matter (although good content will make people want to link to your site).

    Focusing on PR is a complete waste of time unless you want to sell links. Every page can pass approximately 85% of its PR. That PR is divided between the number of outgoing links (it's 10X better to get a link on a page with 1 outgoing link vs the same page with 10 outgoing links.) Getting a "PR6" link from a page with 100 outgoing links on a page will pass very little PR - a link from a PR4 page with only a few outgoing links will pass more PR.

    You can get a PR 6, 7, even PR8 with only one backlink pointing to your site - provided the page linking to you has a higher PR and is the only outgoing link on the page. There is no such thing as only being able to get a PR5 for a particular sector.

    The key to ranking well isn't PR, it's links from authority sites in your sector. Authority sites usually have a high PR (because so many people have linked to them) - but it is the authority link, not the PR, which is going to help you.
     
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    I am guessing that blog is the first in his signature and keyword is “Amazing India”
     
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    #14
    If thats the case:

    Alexa Rank: 4,879,990
    Google Backlinks: ~0
    Average PR: 0 | Max PR: 0 | Min PR: 0
    Summary for amazingindiaexperience.info

    :rolleyes:
     
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    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #15

    Thanks for you word. well ---I have two more domains regarding India and will surely keep your advice in mind. While this time I used a phrase that had 5 Million competetion, India Culture has---77miliion. Its bit of a challenge-to come on top with that--presently, I am just letting my domain to grow old.:D
     
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    #16
    You need to spend a little more time reading about SEO and SEM on the forums. There is no need to let your domain "grow old" - that happens naturally from the day you bought it. Concentrate on good quality content, get some nice backlinks, do some onpage optimization and things will fall into place!

    Good Luck!
    :eek:
     
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    jhnrang Notable Member

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    I said it is just 14 days old---and I have a traffic of 266 uniqes for 8 days. And ALEXA can always be manipulated through tool bars.

    Google will never show any backlinks now. Its too early for google. I check my back licks by IWEBTOOLS-- Please Click here to check:D

    I also said--I got PR4 prediction ( how can I get PR ratings in 14 days:confused: )
     
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    You're missing the point. If you enter in "Amazing India" into google, it shows 5.7 million results - but that number is worthless to you - it means nothing in regards to how many people actually search ifor the term "Amazing India" - you need to check wordtracker: http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/suggestion/

    It shows that no one searching for that keyword phrase - ranking #1 for "Amazing India" will bring you little, if any, traffic. On the other hand, a term such as "India History" has 178 people a day searching for it. Targeting a keyword without first doing research on actual searches is a very big mistake.
     
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  19. LaCabra

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    :rolleyes: Quoting your post title: "PR4 & Top 10 too easy? I got them in 14 days!"
     
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    #20
    its easy to rank well if you do not have competative keywords. although, it sounds like you are on the right track. good luck with pr6...
     
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