DMOZ reopened - has anyone been added? Post in Here!

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by edr, Jan 22, 2007.

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  1. askcybersteve

    askcybersteve Guest

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    #41
    It's the resource Zone. Basically the forum.message board where all the editors hang out.

    And from ym experience some meta's are terribly corrupt. I had an experience where the meta was delisting sites in a category that fitted perfectly because it conflicted with a site that the person had some interest in. money, owenrship, not really sure.

    Anyway, I actually didnt have a site in that category but it was so blatant that I reported it through the abuse form and nothing got done about it. I inquired about the investigation some time later and was told that it had been concluded that hte Meta did nothing wrong. Well for a fact I know that the person was offering webmasters a kickback fee for removing the competition.

    If this is just 1 meta then so be it but I dont think it is. I would suggest that the vast majority of them are making a living from DMOZ and that the honest editors like our own DP member are in the minority.
     
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  2. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #42
    Not ALL the editors. Many editors hate RZ as much as the rest of the world. The core of the people that run and frequent that sad excuse for a forum consists mostly of delusional and antisocial bullies. It is a blight on DMOZ as much as it is a living experiment in group psychopathology.
     
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    CReed Prominent Member

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    #43
    Hope you stick around, sad to hear about this. Does it really make a difference if you find a listable site here @DP or on the side of a bus?

    Just don't go into that editor protection program and start posting under another nick. :eek:
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #44
    There is 2 problem, it cuts in to editors profit if she list it for free when they can charge for it and on top of that she can by mistake add a site that is in competitions with Admins commercial sites. I know that Admins are not suppose to be affiliated with commercial sites but does anybody really believe that? ;)
     
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  5. brizzie

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    #45
    None of the above Annie! Hang on in there!!! (which is a bit hypocritical of me but hey). For the record none of the senior editors I mixed with whilst an editor ever struck me as being in it for money, and that goes for the meta Annie has had a run-in with too. There are an awful lot of very good people there who do edit as a hobby and are highly principled. With any organisation of that size it would be completely impossible to get on well with everyone though even if every one of them had taken a vow of poverty and holy orders.

    Annie, they trusted you enough to make you an Editall - that means professional respect for your skills and abilities, and it is irrelevant what one meta thinks of that. Eight of the most senior editors had to agree you were totally fitted for the job. Ignore it or report it as communications abuse. I don't know why my own relationship with that meta went sour myself but don't let it wind you up, it isn't your fault.

    @gworld - you are such a cynic! It doesn't matter where you pick up good quality listable sites from - I picked up half a dozen or so real gems from RZ in the past. No-one complained, others did it too including metas.
     
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    #46
    ya, it was a long wait, but now am happy. dmoz has re-opened. Though i have submitten my site in dmoz, but am still waiting to see if dmoz accepts it.

    It says i have to wait for another 6 months before submitting it again. Anyways i have submitted it, and now am waiting.
     
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  7. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #47
    Who says that? It sounds like something you read at the Resourceless Zone.

    On the other hand, I'd suggest you stop waiting and wondering or worrying and just move on. It really is just another link. No more, no less.
     
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  8. Ivan Bajlo

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    #48
    Don't let minstrel deceive you, you need to keep resubmitting every five days, regularly annoy editors, keep asking question on every forum you can find, DMOZ link is most important link in the universe since DMOZ is run by CIA! :eek:

    *Ivan the paranoid joker* :D
     
    Ivan Bajlo, Jan 30, 2007 IP
  9. edr

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    #49
    Wow seems as though this thread has gone haywire.

    The insanity of the debate is reflective of the troubled project I think.

    That all understood I am still interested to note a turnaround time on submission to acceptance since DMOZ reopened. Anyone been listed yet?
     
    edr, Feb 6, 2007 IP
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    #50
    I don't know if any DP members have been listed since DMOZ reopened, but I can tell you from experience that many sites are being listed every day.
     
    compostannie, Feb 6, 2007 IP
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    #51
    i have submited my my nonenglish site nearly 10 days ago and it has been accepted 2 days ago
     
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  12. Ivan Bajlo

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    #52
    Turkish? So there is active editor there, how much would you charge me to translate all my websites to Turkish so I can submit them there? :D
     
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    #53
    I'm sorry to avoid all the normal DMOZ drama and ask a real question: Some of my sites don't have an editor in the relevant category (or rather, the editor listed is "Volunteer to edit this category!"). Does this mean there's basically no hope of submissions being approved, or is it just bumped up another tier to the meta/all level? Also if I have a choice between essentially two equivalent categories and one has an editor and the other does not which should I go for, and does it even make a difference?

    Unfortunately I can't volunteer to edit the editorless categories since there'd be a clear conflict of interest given where our corporate interests lay in those segments.
     
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    #54
    i just to know if dmoz is closed temporary few month a go, i am lucky my site had been there before
     
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  15. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    #55
    yes , it was turkish but i think was a lucky guy. most of the people are waiting for approval more than one year.

    translate ? lets start to traslate your sites. i love money :D
     
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  16. lmocr

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    #56
    There are over 200 editors who can edit anywhere in the directory, as well as the editors that are listed higher up the category tree than the one that fits your site. So the presence of "volunteer to edit this category" will not affect the time from suggestion to listing.

    There should not be two categories essentially the same in the directory - if you read the description for each category you should note the differences between the categories. For example: a site that sells ***, but does not have prices could be listed in a Business category for ***, while a site that does have prices would be listed in a Shopping category for ***. They may look like the same type of site, but there are differences. If, however, you do happen to find two categories that are exactly the same - please post the categories (or PM an editor) and we'll check into it. :)

    You are more than welcome to volunteer to edit a category where your site may be listed. There is no conflict of interest as long as you treat all sites in the category without bias. Unfortunately, at this time, the editor application process is not working. A notice will be posted in the Resource Zone once it is working again.
     
    lmocr, Feb 7, 2007 IP
  17. CymaxStores

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    #57
    Thanks for the clarification. What I mean by could go in more than one category is that it's more of a toss up in terms of what the site covers; say one part is consumer entertainment furniture and another is home office furniture (since this site is specific to a manufacturer's line rather than a category of product). The classification nomenclature isn't really at fault. I checked our sales figures and went with what sold more, which made it pretty easy.

    I was flipping through other categories to see which ones had editors and which didn't pretty well at random and came across this: http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Home_and_Garden/Garage/

    And noticed the only entry in the root category is for a business called "Car Guy Garage" and the editor's name is "carguygarage". Speaking objectively as a user who doesn't really have any (financial) interest in this category it seems kind of weird that the only business in it belongs to the editor (there are sub-categories under this one that have entries though). It could just be a little trafficked area that no one applies to but my first impression was "well, he got his shingle out there early!".
     
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  18. compostannie

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    #58
    CymaxStores, if you feel you can edit fairly and not be swayed by any possible conflict of interest I'd encourage you to go ahead and apply to edit. I took a look at the editor you mentioned above and I don't see a problem yet. He/she is a very new editor and has not had time to do much editing at all. To be fair we should wait a couple more months before forming any opinions about his/her intentions. :)
     
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  19. CymaxStores

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    #59
    Thanks Annie. I should say I wasn't implying that I thought the editor I mentioned wasn't on the level, rather that the immediate appearance of such a scenario made my antennae twitch; you've since checked it out and now I know everything's fine, but not everyone has the benefit of "inside connections" I guess. I guess it's a methodology thing, really more of a "trust everyone until they prove you wrong" instead of "distrust everyone to reduce the scope of potential volunteers".

    I could edit most of those categories based on my own past experience but I don't think I'm comfortable with being in the industry (retail and to a point, SEO) and also being such a large part of what I feel should be a relatively neutral promotor of it. Keep up the good work though!
     
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    Made mine twitch too, that's why I jumped on it. :D
     
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