So that's the essence of your point when you singled yet another of my posts out above with false assumptions? I guess I had expectations you would take issue with the actual content of the posts, such as those "tiny minority" stats, children being taught that Christians and Jews are apes and pigs, islamic leaders in mosques calling for the death of non-beleivers. But, nope, it's not those things you have issues Do you have anything else you'd like to volunteer on a public forum?
So there are people who are the mirror image of you on the other side, what is the surprise in that? Did you really believe that you are the only psychopath that spreads hatred and now you are disappointed for having a competition?
Yes please try to use the nine points in the article so your post will not be counterproductive . As you write now you help to push the terrorists agenda because you do not pay any attention to point 7,8, and 9.
That's awfully kind and thoughtful of you gworld! You always say the nicest things about terrorists in general. I noticed throughout the theme of discussion, you didn't say one bad word about all these people wanting to take over the UK. For some odd (and consistent) reason, you simply attacked the messenger(s). Isn't it strange that's the *only* outrage you and a few others have? Man, if these nuts were Chrisitans and Jews, you'd be ripping them a new butthole, huh?
Gtech i am not trying to tell you that terrorists are good. as a matter of fact i do not think anyone here is saying that including gworld. please read the three points carefully. you will see why you are getting the reaction that you are getting. it is not Islam that we need to fight or the liberals or whatever it is terrorists, and we need to isolate them not ourselves.
Well you certainly chose not to address anything relating to them in this thread. What does that say? Gworld has a long history of supporting terrorists. You cannot speak for him. I've documented many of these posts. When you go back and read my posts where I've posted information (being aware), let me know how silly you feel. Or, is this just like you did with kerry...trying to silence anyone that you don't agree with? Did you want to discuss the issues, or did you want to make it personal and try to sidestep the issues? So far, you're doing a good job of the latter. Was that your goal?
i single out your posts because a- you use religious terminology b-you tell people that the terrorists follow koran and what they preach is what koran says c-you attack and argue everytime a muslem try to seperates himself and islam from the terrorists and alianate them by doing so because of the following reason i feel that you are counterproductive in the war against terrorisim and i find it necessary to object to most of your posts i am sure that most of the people that find your posts objectionable have exactly the same objections to your posts. now i am off to go home so i hope you will consider these points the next time you post and will see a lot more people agreable
Using the word 'minority' and using actual statistics e.g. 1/4, there is a lot of difference between them. The words minority can be used to describe the number of terrorists because they are a minority- only some people are terrorists not most- ( note we are not using numbers or actual statistics) What is this 'overwhelming data' that disputes that only the minority are terrorists There you go again making incorrect assumptions about islam- by the way did you read the article it self? doesn't look like it otherwise you would know that they don't 'teach' that Jews are apes and christians are pigs. They use the books. You in your post said 'should they continue to teach' well they can only continue if they have started- which they haven't. Here you go again making up rubbish against Islam. Oh yeah when you quoted the article about these books you seemed to snip/miss a part out- a vital part: Now why did you do that GTech? Quite alot of heavy editing to try and prove a point.
You forgot one: d. - I don't subscribe to "liberal think tanks" nor people like yourself who seek to silence those who want to be aware. Focus your "outrage" on the actual events that are the issue, not the messengers. Or perhaps you are not really outraged in the first place. You've certainly had numerous opportunities and open doors to express such. Have we finished making it personal to cover up and avoid the real issues?
So what is your message? Let's start a Christian holly war against every Muslim or immigrant? Should they try ethnic cleansing in USA and Europe as they tried to do in Yugoslavia? If you are so anxious to fight and kill then why are you and the rest of missing balls chicken brigade haven't joined the army so you can kill some terrorists? The truth is people like you who talk big and spread hatred are just talks that only find a courage in mob situation against a defenseless person. You try your best to start a "race and religion" war among different groups in the society but you and your friend will hide under your beds as soon as there is any real danger while innocent people from both side get killed.
Terrorists are not at hand, per se. Those that support extreme views, such as those teaching little kids that Christians and Jews are apes an pigs, mosques that preach "kill the kaffir," muslims that believe 7/7 was justified, muslims that say they are ready for religious war, muslims that say they support bin laden, muslims that are calling for sharia law in the UK and a host of other issues directly presented in this thread are. These, as I've demonstrated, are NOT minorities. What you attempted to do here, is sweep all those issues...the issues directly relating to this thread, under the carpet by suggesting "only some people are terrorists" as your minority. This is deceptive. See my comments directly above. This sort of deception doesn't work with me, sorry. No outrage? Incorrect, it is not an assumption. Do you really want to waste what little, if any credibility you have on this? You would not be the first person practicing and honing their taqiyya skills that I've debated this on. We both know that within islams "holy" texts, Jews (and Christians) are often referred to as apes and pigs. You've made the assumption they are not teaching such, yet it is within the very book and the administrator refuses to discontinue the use of the book. And you expected that I would believe such nonsense? "We instruct our kids from this book that calls Jews and Christians apes and pigs, but we don't teach hatred?" Don't play naive with me, please! We've already cover islam's hatred of Christians and Jews by reference to apes and pigs here. A lengthy thread, to be sure, complete with many sources and scriptures, yet those before you tried their hand at denial as well. No editing at all. Complete with reference, as usual. Compared to the sources (oops, you don't use sources, do you?) you have?
Is this how you categorize your persistent hatred towards Chrisitans, Jews, America and soldiers? Do you remember the thread you started seeking sympathy and support for an alqaida terrorist? You are upset that people are aware of very serious issues, gworld. Pretend these were Christians and Jews making the same calls and doing the same things. Then you could release your usual hatred.
Giving out recruiting form to high school kids that are getting killed in this war while he is hiding under his bed and cheers on.
Actually, recruiting was only the last 1.5 years of my seven years of service. We both have something in common though, gworld. I served my country, you serve the cause of terrorists. I suspect my service was a little more rigorous than yours Would you like to pass over another open door opportunity to say something bad about terrorists? I thought so
Don't try to hide behind the soldiers in order to cover up who you are. Any real soldier will be ashamed to be associated with people like you. The people like you who preach rape of teenage girls and killing of innocent civilian are equally despised by both civilians and soldiers.
Isn't your country in war? Aren't you defender of Christian identity against the Muslims who are you going to take over the world? Why aren't you joining now to defend your country? Is it because you and your friends are just part of missing balls chicken brigade that like to talk big about the killing but doesn't have the balls to actually do it?
If only you could actually source any post to back that up, you'd be a true hero, gworld! Sadly, you cannot do such and will simply ignore my challenge to do so. On the other hand, we need only revisit this post where I've previously documented your support for terrorists. Will you be starting any more threads to seek sympathy and support for members of al qaida?
So what are you saying, the majority of muslims are terrprists and the ones that aren't are a minority. You used actual statistics and when I said that that is not reliable because we don't know the sample size. You then said how can we call the terrorists a minority. Minority- General Descriptive word 1/4- actual statistic. You see the difference? You said should they continue to teach that christians and jews are apes and pigs. The artricle said they don't teach that they use the books. so unless you went and studied at that school- or observed a lesson where they taught this to the kids. How can you say that they ARE teaching the kids this? And no Islamic texts do not refer to Christiands and Jews as Apes and pigs, but they refer to them as Christians and Jews. Denial? It says that they don't teach this, so quite obviously they don't. Looks like you just want to believe parts of the article which portray muslims in a bad light. Why not just altogether refuse to believe the article full stop? Why believe some parts and not others? I'll tell you why- DENIAL ! You quite obviously forgot to include one small little line: Dr Alyusuf replied: "Just to reiterate what I said earlier, there are chapters from these books that are used and that will serve our objectives. But we don't teach hatred towards Judaism or Christianity - on the contrary." But you will just refuse to believe it....
nokiaking, since I'm pretty sure what your next post will be, here's a link to well documented sources: http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002807.html