If God/Allah Forgives Me I Will Go To Heaven: What Do You Think

This question is not relavant unless one can actually prove that God exists. Until we do that we can't address any question concerning God's will.

 

I personally like to ask the question: "How can you prove that God doesn't exist?"

 

You have many questions you seem t not have the answer for. Study of God's word in the proper way will find answers for your questions. Study will also answer you question about Revelation being both literal and symbolic. Of course, not the whole book being both. I mean some things spoken about are literal and some symbolic. Only proper study will bring clear understanding. Yes, Jesus is the Lamb of God. Not disputing that at all.

Revelation was written by the apostle John. Of course he is a Christian. He followed Christ's teaching. Hence, the very definition of being a Christian.

Col

 

Honestly, I think everyone needs to stop getting caught up in the specific words of the Bible (After all, how many versions are there?) , and focus on the message. God is our creator. Live your life, raise your children, be a good person, and praise the Lord. We will all be judged at one point or another for our actions and God will act accordingly.

Personally I believe everyone will eventually be with our Father, it is simple a matter of how long he punishes you for your sins in the afterlife before he embraces you. So yes, you will be forgiven and go to heaven, you just might be punished in hell for 600 years beforehand.

God is forgiving.

 

Does a master's degree in theology count as proper studying, because I will have that one in about 3 more months...I also think that scripture can be interpreted differently by different people, as well as differently by the same person at different times. I leave all of this up to God and the work of the Holy Spirit, however, I do not believe that we can still look at the Bible and pick out the parts that are literal and the parts that are not. That is not something we as humans can't do. To do that is to know exactly what God is thinking, and if we did that, we would be God.

So God is non-forgiving or conditional before he is forgiving? Where does that information come from? I have read the Bible fully and never heard or read such a thing...

 

This is the only life you get.
Live well, live long.

 

A masters degree will on no way guarantee God's favour. I have studied the Bible for 4 solid years and still I need to learn a great deal more. Put it this way. No human can in no way have the full understanding of God and it's just not right to think that someone can. I am not saying you think this way so don't get me wrong. I use the Bible as a measuring stick against all other theories and things. If it does not fit, then it most likely would not be correct. It's worked for me this far.

Col

 

That's great that you use it as a measuring stick, I wish more people would...and just an fyi i've been studying the Bible for 27 years, and I still don't have it all either, nor will I ever. However, I do enjoy pushing people on the subject and how they use it. This has been fun, and I think we have done it without attacking each other...

 

Good stuff!. I turn away from those attacking me. I only try to reason with people. You know the phrase "You can lead a horse to water"?? LOL.

Col

 

What do you believe? What's your stance on life after death? If you say God is forgiving than do all people get into heaven regardless? If you say God does send people to hell for their sins, then is he not forgiving?

I believe our Lord punishes us after death if we did something wrong in life, but that he is merciful and would not leave us in hell eternally, and that once we have fulfilled our punishment he will allow us to live in his kingdom with him.

 

Well. It's been great chatting to you all. I now have to go out for a few hours and talk to the people about the "Good News of the Kingdom". Back soon.

Col

 

this is God's job. Not mine.

We should just focus on going to heaven, we should do whatever we have to do, then of course God is going to decide that we were okay to go to Heaven or not.

May God Bless you All

 

What is God's job? Who are we to say what God's job is? That's like telling the teacher at school "I don't think you are teaching me correctly. You should teach me what I think you should teach me".

Of course, that would be a totally wrong attitude towards God. Not saying you have this attitude but your words make it "appear" this way.

What the Bible teaches about who is going to heaven is definitely something to study and learn. You might be surprised who is and who isn't.

Col

 

I just don't like the rules that God puts down.
I mean if you were muslim and you can't drink.. that would really suck

 

There is nothing in the Bible that says you can not drink. It does say you should not become a drunkard though (1 Cor 5:9-13).

I am a Christian and I am currently enjoying a nice glass of red. Jesus turned water into fine wine at a wedding reception for the guests there as an example that we can enjoy a drink but not to excess (John 2:1-11).

Col

 

I wish I could do that, I'm all out of wine and all I have left is a couple of cans of Kronenbourg 1664.

I did try but all I could turn water into is water. I guess it's all in the technique.

 

Sounds like you have a fermentation problem

Col

 

It's not a religion of blood, voilence and hatred of women dear... It means peace. Please change your point of view and study this religion. You will find that religion is all good but most of the followers are bad... not all... Don't be so aggressive dear... Anyways what made you think so?

 

I hate to break this to you, but you won't actually be going anywhere when you die, you'll rot and become earth eventually, so never mind god / allah or anyone else live your life for you, how you want to; you'll die happy.

 

Exactly... but you know what's scary sometimes when you think about it too much.. You ask yourself... What if there was a God?

I think as long as i'm cool and good.. I will have a suite in heaven.