Getting blog postings with PayPerPost

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  1. RomanticGuy

    RomanticGuy Active Member

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    #41
    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/21 - 1 visitor, 1 pageview
    1/22 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/23 - 3 visitors, 17 pageviews
    1/24 - 1 visitor, 18 pageviews

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/21 - 11 links
    1/22 - 12 links
    1/23 - 14 links
    1/24 - 12 links
    1/25 - 13 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11
    Jan 22, 2007 10
    Jan 23, 2007 10
    Jan 24, 2007 10
    Jan 25, 2007 10

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13
    1/22 - Google 5, Yahoo 15
    1/23 - Google 5, Yahoo 21, MSN 1
    1/24 - Google 11, Yahoo 5, MSN 1, AOL 1

    Summary:
    1) Still a little traffic coming from the blogs.
    2) Looks like might be waiting quite a while for the links from the PR0 blogs.
    3) Ranking for the keyword in Google seems to have stablized around 10.
    4) Nice jump in Google traffic. I am still ranked #5 on Yahoo, so it is hard to explain what is going on there (possibly rank dropped in overseas markets?).
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 25, 2007 IP
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    #42
    This alone says it all - your 20 blog posts in your niche managed to move your site from page 2 to page 1. As long as the posts stay around the long-term SEO benefits certainly look like it was worth getting the posts.

    Thanks for taking the time to update this info over thalast week or so, it really does go a long way to validate my own belief that a blog post about a site is an important SEO tool. So, as a blogger, as long as the posts are relavent to my topic, the small amount of traffic to the advertised site is good, but the cumulative long-term effect for the site I am posting about has been demonstrated by your stats.
     
    RRWH, Jan 26, 2007 IP
  3. RomanticGuy

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    #43
    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/21 - 1 visitor, 1 pageview
    1/22 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/23 - 3 visitors, 17 pageviews
    1/24 - 1 visitor, 18 pageviews
    1/25 - 1 visitor, 5 pageviews

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/21 - 11 links
    1/22 - 12 links
    1/23 - 14 links
    1/24 - 12 links
    1/25 - 13 links
    1/26 - 10 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11
    Jan 22, 2007 10
    Jan 23, 2007 10
    Jan 24, 2007 10
    Jan 25, 2007 10
    Jan 26, 2007 10

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13
    1/22 - Google 5, Yahoo 15
    1/23 - Google 5, Yahoo 21, MSN 1
    1/24 - Google 11, Yahoo 5, MSN 1, AOL 1
    1/25 - Google 7, Yahoo 7

    Summary:
    1) Still a little traffic coming from the blogs.
    2) Looks I am dropping off more blog homepages.
    3) Ranking for the keyword in Google seems to have stablized around 10.
    4) Some improvement on Google traffic, Yahoo traffic down significantly.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 26, 2007 IP
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    #44
    yes i,ll also try that...thanks
     
    letsjoy, Jan 26, 2007 IP
  5. RomanticGuy

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    #45
    Since I reported the PageRank of the blogs that posted for me, there has been a PageRank update. Here are the updated numbers:

    PR0 - 3 <= 9 bloggers
    PR1 - 1 <= 1 blogger
    PR2 - 3 <= none
    PR3 - 5 <= 2 bloggers
    PR4 - 5 <= 6 bloggers
    PR5 - 3 <= 2 bloggers

    There has been a significant improvement in the displayed PageRank. My initial calculation was the postings were roughly equivalent to 3 PR5 sites. Now I would say they were roughly equivalent to 4 PR5 sites and 1 PR4 site.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 27, 2007 IP
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    #46
    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/21 - 1 visitor, 1 pageview
    1/22 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/23 - 3 visitors, 17 pageviews
    1/24 - 1 visitor, 18 pageviews
    1/25 - 1 visitor, 5 pageviews
    1/26 - 2 visitor, 4 pageviews

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/21 - 11 links
    1/22 - 12 links
    1/23 - 14 links
    1/24 - 12 links
    1/25 - 13 links
    1/26 - 10 links
    1/26 - 11 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11
    Jan 22, 2007 10
    Jan 23, 2007 10
    Jan 24, 2007 10
    Jan 25, 2007 10
    Jan 26, 2007 10
    Jan 27, 2007 9

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13
    1/22 - Google 5, Yahoo 15
    1/23 - Google 5, Yahoo 21, MSN 1
    1/24 - Google 11, Yahoo 5, MSN 1, AOL 1
    1/25 - Google 7, Yahoo 7
    1/26 - Google 6, Yahoo 3

    Summary:
    1) Still a little traffic coming from the blogs.
    2) The keyword ranking information is from DP's Keyword Tracker. It lists the rank for my keyword as 9, but when I display it in Google, I am 12+13.
    3) Some improvement on Google traffic. In Yahoo my rank has slipped from #5 to #6. This helps explain the big drop in Yahoo traffic.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 27, 2007 IP
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    #47
    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/21 - 1 visitor, 1 pageview
    1/22 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/23 - 3 visitors, 17 pageviews
    1/24 - 1 visitor, 18 pageviews
    1/25 - 1 visitor, 5 pageviews
    1/26 - 2 visitor, 4 pageviews
    1/27 - 0 visitor, 0 pageviews

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/21 - 11 links
    1/22 - 12 links
    1/23 - 14 links
    1/24 - 12 links
    1/25 - 13 links
    1/26 - 10 links
    1/27 - 11 links
    1/28 - 15 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11
    Jan 22, 2007 10
    Jan 23, 2007 10
    Jan 24, 2007 10
    Jan 25, 2007 10
    Jan 26, 2007 10
    Jan 27, 2007 9
    Jan 28, 2007 9

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13
    1/22 - Google 5, Yahoo 15
    1/23 - Google 5, Yahoo 21, MSN 1
    1/24 - Google 11, Yahoo 5, MSN 1, AOL 1
    1/25 - Google 7, Yahoo 7
    1/26 - Google 6, Yahoo 3
    1/27 - Google 5, Yahoo 3

    Summary:
    1) First day without traffic from the blog postings.
    2) The keyword ranking information is from DP's Keyword Tracker. It lists the rank for my keyword as 9, but when I display it in Google, I am 12+13.
    3) Google traffic seems to be staying higher than pretest levels. My Yahoo rank is back up to #5. Hopefully, I will get the Yahoo traffic back.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 28, 2007 IP
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    #48
    Hey RomanticGuy Thanks! Had to learn how to add to reputation, and I added to yours. The thread is well done, clear and concise. Really do appreciate it.
     
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    #49
    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/21 - 1 visitor, 1 pageview
    1/22 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/23 - 3 visitors, 17 pageviews
    1/24 - 1 visitor, 18 pageviews
    1/25 - 1 visitor, 5 pageviews
    1/26 - 2 visitor, 4 pageviews
    1/27 - 0 visitor, 0 pageviews
    1/28 - 2 visitor, 29 pageviews

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/21 - 11 links
    1/22 - 12 links
    1/23 - 14 links
    1/24 - 12 links
    1/25 - 13 links
    1/26 - 10 links
    1/27 - 11 links
    1/28 - 15 links
    1/29 - 15 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11
    Jan 22, 2007 10
    Jan 23, 2007 10
    Jan 24, 2007 10
    Jan 25, 2007 10
    Jan 26, 2007 10
    Jan 27, 2007 9
    Jan 28, 2007 9
    Jan 29, 2007 9

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13
    1/22 - Google 5, Yahoo 15
    1/23 - Google 5, Yahoo 21, MSN 1
    1/24 - Google 11, Yahoo 5, MSN 1, AOL 1
    1/25 - Google 7, Yahoo 7
    1/26 - Google 6, Yahoo 3
    1/27 - Google 5, Yahoo 3
    1/28 - Google 4, Yahoo 6

    Summary:
    1) I had to very interested visitor yesterday.
    2) The keyword ranking information is from DP's Keyword Tracker. It lists the rank for my keyword as 9, but when I display it in Google, I am 12+13.
    3) My ranking in Yahoo has dropped to #6 again.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 29, 2007 IP
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    #50
    Here are the latest statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/21 - 1 visitor, 1 pageview
    1/22 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/23 - 3 visitors, 17 pageviews
    1/24 - 1 visitor, 18 pageviews
    1/25 - 1 visitor, 5 pageviews
    1/26 - 2 visitor, 4 pageviews
    1/27 - 0 visitor, 0 pageviews
    1/28 - 2 visitor, 29 pageviews
    1/29 - 1 visitor, 23 pageviews

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/21 - 11 links
    1/22 - 12 links
    1/23 - 14 links
    1/24 - 12 links
    1/25 - 13 links
    1/26 - 10 links
    1/27 - 11 links
    1/28 - 15 links
    1/29 - 15 links
    1/30 - 14 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11
    Jan 22, 2007 10
    Jan 23, 2007 10
    Jan 24, 2007 10
    Jan 25, 2007 10
    Jan 26, 2007 10
    Jan 27, 2007 9
    Jan 28, 2007 9
    Jan 29, 2007 9
    Jan 30, 2007 9

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13
    1/22 - Google 5, Yahoo 15
    1/23 - Google 5, Yahoo 21, MSN 1
    1/24 - Google 11, Yahoo 5, MSN 1, AOL 1
    1/25 - Google 7, Yahoo 7
    1/26 - Google 6, Yahoo 3
    1/27 - Google 5, Yahoo 3
    1/28 - Google 4, Yahoo 6
    1/29 - Google 13, Yahoo 9

    Summary:
    1) I had one very interested blog visitor yesterday.
    2) The keyword ranking information is from DP's Keyword Tracker. It lists the rank for my keyword as 9, but when I display it in Google, I am 12+13.
    3) Nice increase in Google traffic. My Yahoo traffic is down significantly from pretest levels.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 30, 2007 IP
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    #51
    Here are the final statistics.

    Traffic:
    1/16 - 11 visitors, 57 pageviews
    1/17 - 6 visitors, 30 pageviews
    1/18 - 6 visitors, 4 pageviews (Clearly some of the pageviews were missed.)
    1/19 - 4 visitors, 10 pageviews
    1/20 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/21 - 1 visitor, 1 pageview
    1/22 - 2 visitors, 2 pageviews
    1/23 - 3 visitors, 17 pageviews
    1/24 - 1 visitor, 18 pageviews
    1/25 - 1 visitor, 5 pageviews
    1/26 - 2 visitor, 4 pageviews
    1/27 - 0 visitor, 0 pageviews
    1/28 - 2 visitor, 29 pageviews
    1/29 - 1 visitor, 23 pageviews
    1/30 - 2 visitor, 3 pageviews

    Links:
    1/16 - Blogger entries posted
    1/17 - 4 links
    1/18 - 5 links
    1/19 - 9 links
    1/20 - 10 links
    1/21 - 11 links
    1/22 - 12 links
    1/23 - 14 links
    1/24 - 12 links
    1/25 - 13 links
    1/26 - 10 links
    1/27 - 11 links
    1/28 - 15 links
    1/29 - 15 links
    1/30 - 14 links
    1/31 - 15 links

    Keyword rank:
    Jan 16, 2007 17 (Blogger entries posted)
    Jan 17, 2007 15
    Jan 18, 2007 16
    Jan 19, 2007 11
    Jan 20, 2007 11
    Jan 21, 2007 11
    Jan 22, 2007 10
    Jan 23, 2007 10
    Jan 24, 2007 10
    Jan 25, 2007 10
    Jan 26, 2007 10
    Jan 27, 2007 9
    Jan 28, 2007 9
    Jan 29, 2007 9
    Jan 30, 2007 9
    Jan 31, 2007 9

    Keyword traffic:
    1/16 - Google 1, Yahoo 33
    1/17 - Google 3, Yahoo 20
    1/18 - Google 3, Yahoo 27
    1/19 - Google 3, Yahoo 11
    1/20 - Google 2, Yahoo 12
    1/21 - Google 3, Yahoo 13
    1/22 - Google 5, Yahoo 15
    1/23 - Google 5, Yahoo 21, MSN 1
    1/24 - Google 11, Yahoo 5, MSN 1, AOL 1
    1/25 - Google 7, Yahoo 7
    1/26 - Google 6, Yahoo 3
    1/27 - Google 5, Yahoo 3
    1/28 - Google 4, Yahoo 6
    1/29 - Google 13, Yahoo 9
    1/30 - Google 7, Yahoo 4

    Summary:
    1) Visitors from the blog postings still trickling in.
    2) The keyword ranking information is from DP's Keyword Tracker. It lists the rank for my keyword as 9, but when I display it in Google, I am 11+12. I have Google set to display 100 entries at a time. Apparently this gives you more secondary pages from some websites. That is apparently the reason for the discrepency between what I saw when I display the result and DP Keyword Tracker's number.
    3) Increase in Google traffic seems to have stablized. My Yahoo traffic is still down significantly from pretest levels.

    That's it for the results. I will post a little later with my observations.
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 31, 2007 IP
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    #52
    Very good post. I recently used PayPerPost and say very little return on my $50 dollar investment. I just launched a new campaign with my site in my signature. We shall see how it goes. I will post an update here in three days.
     
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    Great info - thanks a lot. I have just started experimenting with PPP. I'll add to this post if I see anything significant.
     
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    My Analysis

    1) I didn't get much in the way of traffic from my PayPerPost.

    2) The bloggers often gave me more than the two links that I asked for.

    3) Two weeks after the blog postings, many of the links to my website still have not shown up in Yahoo.

    4) The blog postings seemed to be the source of a nice improvement in my Google rank for my targeted keyword, from 16 to 9. My Yahoo ranking for the keyword dropped from 5 to 6. I had a small increase in Google traffic, but that was more than offset by a drop in my Yahoo traffic.

    5) These blog posting certainly have not paid for themselves in the short term and I have no hope that they will pay off in the immediate future. I am hoping (and it is only a hope) that SEO benefits will pay for the postings in the next year or two.


    My Suggestions

    1) Use a opportunity title that will attract the type of blogger you are looking for.

    2) I can not stress enough how important it is that you be very specific about what you want from your bloggers.

    3) The text of your opportunity is going to run a lot longer than your blog postings. Type it all out in Notepad first. Trust me on this one.

    4) I think it is helpful to give suggestion on how the posting can be handled (option 1, option 2, option 3, ...).

    5) Ask for more than one link to your website (you can do that in the description).

    6) Ask for PR4+ bloggers. You pay the same for a PR0 as you will for a PR5. In my sample of 20 blogs, 40% were PR4 or better. Had a specified PR4+ it would have taken longer to get my blog postings, but I suspect I still would have been able to get all 20 postings at my offerred price.

    7) State specifically what type of blog theme you want. I received a posting from a blog with a very unexpected theme. I never occurred to my that I would have to exclude it.

    8) Specifically state whether overseas bloggers can take your opportunity. My opportunity ran into the night US time, so I received a few postings overseas. I complained about one with terrible spelling and grammar, but it was still approved.

    9) Set your opportunity to run for months and only request 1 or 2 postings. This gives you the flexibility to ask for more postings if you like what you are getting or pull the plug early if there is a problem. This also gives you the flexibility to have 100 postings over several months if that is what you want.

    10) I decline tracking because it does not allow for a direct link to your website.


    My Opinion

    If you are looking to generate buzz about you website or product, I think PayPerPost can have a place in a overall website promotion campaign. If you are primary interested in SEO and you are a decent writer, I think you would be better served to pay yourself to write a few articles and submit them to the article directories.

    So that it! Any comments, observations or questions?
     
    RomanticGuy, Jan 31, 2007 IP
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    #55
    Thank you for your insights, I was going to subscribe as well.
     
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    #56


    I'm not sure I understand this one. I tried to initially put only 2 postings. Once the opportunity was approved, I can't edit it any more to increase the postings. When I click on my opportunity, I get the following message:

    How did you manage to increase the number of postings? Have they changed things?
     
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    #57
    I don't have any opportunities currently open, so I have to draw from my memory. I believe there is a link for the number of requested posts or the linking text. Click that and it will show the number of posts available for each keyword/landing page combination. From that page, I believe you can increase the number of post requested for a specific keyword/landing page combination and/or add a new keyword/landing page combination.

    I hope that works for you. If not, I would contact PayPerPost and ask them.
     
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    Thanks I found where I can change it. You actually change it from the main "manage opportunities" page, not the page for the individual opportunity. A little confusing, but I got it now.

    Thanks!
     
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    #59
    Romanticguy, this has been an excellent read. I am thinking of using PPP soon (as soon as some budget frees up.) I would be very interested to hear more about your results in the days ahead.
     
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    #60
    great post, mate!
     
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