God's miracle in India

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  1. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    #21
    If you take a look at the map of Maldives.. You will see thousands of similar islands.
     
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    #22
    Dont make this broke down of dredger another God's miracle like Milk Drinking Ganesh few years ago. While 1000s of indian public was struggling to get a galss of milk a day, millions of liters of Pure milk wasted at Ganesh idols.
    What a waste that was!
     
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    #23
    I am not saying it s a miracle

    I am saying why a man with all advances in Science and Technology can't break a small peice of bridge that has been believed to be constructed by Rama(Lord Vishnu in his Avatar)?(According to you a human being)

    This is my Question!

    Anybody can answer me!
     
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    dotcompals Prominent Member

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    #24
    It is not a small piece of bridge, The Palk Strait is studded at its southern end with a chain of low islands and reef shoals . It is there as it is for 1000s of years and it is natural - not man made. It is difficult to break that, but it will be broken, that is for sure.
     
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    cocaine Well-Known Member

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    #25
    I belive this.
     
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  6. Freewebspace

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    #26
    These chain of islands are supposedly connected by a bridge that is man made

    and not natural

    Only the islands there are natural and not the small land mass connecting these islands

    Also you could take this another way Ramayana is believed to ahve taken place 1000's of years ago

    So these islands may have actually created by Rama and his friends and in course of time at some places it may have become proper islands

    Actually there have many instances of Tsunami hitting the east coast of Tamil Nadu, by these disturbances the bridge ( sand or small land mass created by Rama) may have been actually eroded by rough seas ,tsunamis and other disturbances to look like these

    Also another point when during Tsunamis actually some land masses are rediscovered and some are lost

    For example India's southernmost tip Indira point suffered a major sea invasion actually now the island is about 1/5th of the size before Tsunami

    So It may be the bridge that constructed by Rama may have been eroded at some places and look like small islands as of now
     
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    #27
    Why is this thread here instead of the religion forum?
     
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    jabb Peon

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    #28
    I worked in landscaping for a little while when i left school and tools often broke, now i know god was to blame very insightful :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Freewebspace

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    #29
    Today there is yet another news that another dredger known as 150 tonne that has sent been to retrieve the spud of the dredger that broke down previously

    has also broke during the operation


    Thats is the another 150 tonne crane sent to retreive the broken spud of the dredger has also been destroyed or it broke down during the operation

    I think this is turning out to be a quite miracle

    No they are planning to hire another 200 tonne crane to take out the boat from bridge
     
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  10. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #30
    If you believe in the laws of the universe and believe that everything has structure and order, how can u not believe in god?who put these universal laws out there? Can only be god
     
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    #31
    Now this site doesnt really talk do you believe in god? It talks more about being a Anti-god site..we are all humans and everyone has a different way of thinking. You believe that there is no GOD..but can you answer one simple question?

    Who created humans? Now dont give me answer "Those Webmaster at Atheists.org":) :eek: :D lol
     
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    #32
    Who created god? If god exist, he doesn't know, because he can't be 100% sure that he wasn't created by an over-god that fooled him into believing that he was the only god. He would be just as powerless as humans in knowing why he exist.
     
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    #33
    I do not know what would happen to another 2nd crane that is being to sent to retrive both

    Let us wait and watch what happens If it not able to retrieve both the equipmnets from bridge believed to have been constructed by Rama(God Vishnu in his Avatar)

    Then I would say that Bridge has some divine significance
     
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    #34
    What would you say if eventually, a dredger came and broke that "bridge?"
     
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    #35
    I think it may not be..........
     
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    #36
    Do you think a God needsto make a bridge on His own earth to travel from one part of it to another and that too with the help of Monkeys (I am not pointing to Hanuman anyway...)???
     
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    #37
    Ha ha ha - very correct.
     
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    #38
    What's wrong if some people hold certain beliefs ? In my native language we have a saying : if you worship a rock it becomes god. If you have travelled across India you will find road side shrines and huge temples with gods carved out of stones. A rock is also made by god so it maybe just a token of worship but for hundreds of millions it works. So be it.

    Native americans believe they should seek the permission of their great spirit if they have to use anything from nature and they should promise to return it if they do not need it. It is another way of respecting nature and in India you will find Hindus worshipping many animals like elephants, snakes, cows, etc....and plants too.
     
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    #39
    In kerala, they "worship" elephants so much, finally the elephants will become fed up of continues processions , from one temple to another... and poor creature face tremendous amount of brutality everyday. Is this is called worship in your native land?

    They don't worship or respect nature, some examples are
    • In the name of worship, they show cruelty to animals especially to elephants
    • Creating very large amount of sound pollution by firing dynamites in the name of fireworks and loud speakers in every temple and mosques
    • Fool people by staging a drama (like the makarajyothi at Sabarimala temple)
    • Everybody burns plastics and tires which causes carcinogenic fumes
     
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    Manusmriti, the law book of Hindus says... Excerpts...

    I – 91. One occupation only the lord prescribed to the shudra to serve meekly even these other three castes.

    I – 93. As the Brahmana sprang from (Prajapati’s i.e. God’s ) mouth, as he was first-born, and as he possesses the veda, he is by right the lord of this whole creation.

    II – 31. Let (the first part of ) a brahmin’s (denote) something auspicious, a kshatriya’s name be connected with power and a vaishya’s with wealth, but a Shudra’s (express something) contemptible.

    II-32. (The second part of) a brahmin’s (name) shall be (a word) implying happiness, of a kshatriya’s (word) implying protection, of a Vaishya’s (a term) expressive of thriving, and of a shudra’s (an expression) denoting service.

    II – 100. Whatever exists in the world is the property of the Brahmana; on account of the excellence of his origin the Brahmana is indeed, entitled to it all.

    Regarding the study of Vedas by shudras:

    IV – 99. He (the twice born) must never read (the vedas) ----- in the presence of the shudras.

    VIII – 37. When a learned Brahmin has found treasure, deposited in former (times), he may take even the whole (of it); for he is the master of everything.

    VIII – 270. A shudra who insults a twice born man with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; for he is of low origin.

    VIII – 271. If he mentions names and castes of the (twice born) with contumely, an iron nail, ten fingers, shall be thrust red hot into his mouth.

    VIII – 410. King should order each man of the mercantile class to practice trade, or money lending or agriculture and attendance on cattle; and each man of the servile class to act in the service of the twice born.

    About the status of women:

    IX – 3 . Her father protects (her) in childhood, her husband protects (her) in youth and her sons protect (her) in old age; a woman is never fit for independence.

    IX – 18. Women have no business with the text of the veda.

    IX – 189. The property of a Brahmana must never be taken by the king, that is a settled rule; but (the property of men) of other castes the king may take on failure of all (heirs).

    IX – 317. A Brahmin, whether learned or ignorant, is a powerful divinity.

    X – 121. If a shudra (unable to subsist by serving brahmanas) seeks a livelihood, he may serve kshatriyas, or he may also seek to maintain himself by attending on a wealthy viashya.

    X – 122. But let a shudra serve brahmans, either for the sake of heaven or with a view to both this life and the text, for he who is called the servant of a Brahmana thereby gains all his ends.

    X – 123. The service of the Brahmana alone is declared to be an excellent occupation for a shudra; for whatever else besides this he may perform will bear no fruit.

    Dealing with the question of wages to the shudras:

    X – 124. They must allot to him (shudra) out of their own family property a suitable maintenance, after considering his ability, his industry and the number of those whom he is bound to support.

    X – 125. The remnants of their food must be given to him, as well as their old clothes, the refuge of their grain and their old household furniture.

    X – 129. No collection of wealth must be made by a shudra even though he be able to do it; for a shudra who has acquired wealth gives pain to Brahmana.

    XI – 6. One should give, according to one’s ability, wealth to Brahmanas learned in the veda and living alone; (thus) one obtains after death heavenly bliss.

    XI – 261-62. A Brahmana who has killed even the peoples of the three worlds, is completely freed from all sins on reciting three times the Rig, Yajur or Sama- Veda with the Upanishad.

    Thus in Hinduism, there is no choice of avocation. There is no economic independence and there is no economic security. Economically, speaking of a shudra is a precarious thing.

    Successors of Manu made the disability of the shudra in the matter of study of veda into an offence involving dire penalties as:

    XII. 4. If the shudra intentionally listens for committing to memory the veda, then his ears should be filled with (molten) lead and lac; if he utters the veda, then his tongue should be cut off; if he has mastered the veda his body should be cut to pieces.

    Source:
    http: // www . geocities.com/indiafas/Hindu/manusmriti . htm
     
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