The reason of all US wars since 90`s?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Michelangelo, Jan 26, 2007.

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    No country has started more wars than the United states, but what is the reason?

    I don't think they do it because they are evil and want to destroy the world.

    In my oppinion, the reason for their world policy is less political than for economic reasons. But this way of making business is very unethical. It is horibble, that young soldiers have to die just because of the companies interests. Every one of the United States presidents in the last two centuries came from a business dynasty and made more selfish than selfless decisions for his country.

    This is what you call democracy? Companies that rule your country are forcing the goverment to make wars and "bring their democracy to other countries".

    The question is, where would these companies be today without the US wars?

    And the most important thing is, its all about Oil. The US are getting more competitors to their oil interests. These are India and China. I have written this article and the competition from Asia is huge. but for lord`´s sake the US economy reacts on this trend and understood that the oil consume has to go down and designs new cars which consume less energy. A historical change in the US history.
     
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  2. Codythebest

    Codythebest Notable Member

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    It's economic, of course. It's business.
    Why not to do it if it works?

    I think the US should spend their "foreign" cost on their own land.
    On the other hand, it's investments that will pay off big...
     
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    America needs to keep fighting wars to justify its defense budget. WIthout the wars, there would be no need and thousands of american jobs would be lost and the US' status as superpower would instantly collapse.

    So keep fighting guys... some of us in the UK still support you... bring on the space weapons!!!
     
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  4. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo Peon

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    the billions of investments which are put into the military industry could be put into it`s "peaceful" industry. Killing other people for business is unethical.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    So this thread is to advertise your oil article? Is this the point I got from the OP? :confused:
     
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  6. Michelangelo

    Michelangelo Peon

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    I study Natural Ressources and wanted to offer the people some numbers. I think the most people don`t know the dimension of Oil consumation and why this ressource is that important, that wars are made to get the OIL. In my oppinion it is a topic that affects all of us and perhaps people start to think about it and change their mind about this kind of politics.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    I think that its still funny that people honestly think this war is about oil....when will they get a clue?
     
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    Michelangelo Peon

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    Are you so naive that you think it is because of world peace?

    Just see what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, the two countries are more destabelised than they were before. The news in US are just for entertainment, not for information!

    Don`t write such crap if you know nothing about this topic.
     
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    According to nationalpriorities.org, the war in Iraq has cost US 361 billion USD.

    Isn't it more than the money that US have gained totally from oil in Iraq?
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    Of course it is...but to those who are uneducated, this war is all about Bush wanting more oil for the US and him and cheney personally making millions off it...you get that right?? After all, Bush sets the price of oil from the little computer in the oval office, but only after cheney tells him what it should be.
     
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    I agree. Finally somebody who gets it...
     
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    you realize I was being sarcastic???
     
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    Yes...

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    US mostly depends on Canada and Mexico for oil.

    While Europe, Japan and China are dependent on the middle east and russia.

    Written in 1990:

    http://www.zmag.org/zmag/articles/ShalomIranIraq.html

    Of coarse the numbers have risen, but the circumstance is similiar.
     
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    Oh really? Care to elaborate? We just "start" wars cause we feel like it :rolleyes:

    Not sure why you think that, though economics does have some play in it, there's a bigger matter that they worry about: the security of their allies and the American public (in no particular order.)

    I find it almost revolting that you declare that America uses business and economical interests to "just" declare war on another "country"... have you no recognition for good values?

    ~Right...~ And since oil imports haven't increased any unusual amount in the past, what, decade(!?) it definitely means we're starting all these wars for oil. What other explanation could there be? :rolleyes: You amuse me.
    (http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/oiltrade.html) -- source, by the way.

    Here's more:
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    The increase is understandable, because of rising demands.

    And we're TOTALLY at war with Asia :rolleyes:
     
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    Sorvoja Don't hide my ads!

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    The USA is fighting to rid the world of evil, so future generations can grow up in a safe and peaceful world.
     
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    Are you privy to George Dubya because you just about summed it all up perfectly there. :)
     
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    I have heard that US is not using OIL from its own oil fields and most of them are closed for future use.

    You can just put blame on OIL companies (though they do make money). Wars also generate profit for the companies who manufacture ARMs and AMMO. And those companies have infulence in US Govt. as they pay handsome amount of funds for election campaigns and try their level best (and most of the time they succeed) to get their own candidate selected for protection of their intrest at govt. level.

    And these companies don't give a damn about how many people(US or foreign) are getting killed or how much financial loss govt. gonna have or what gonna happen to the country's repo in the world. They just want to make profit, lots of it. And you can't imagine how far they can go to start a WAR.
     
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    Oil is just a side benefit here folks. Think long term. Iraq under saddam was getting very close to leaping out of its third world status and headed to super power status(with 20 years). This would have cost our national interests alot . Not just in oil but in power and control. We had to trick him into invading kuwait. Remember folks the cia keeps a specialized profile on every world leader and acts accordingly to this. The first goal for iraq is to destroy its infrastructure and make it dependent on us for many years to come. This was also the goal for iran after taking out the peaceful mossadegh. At some point in time we have to start thinking about putting democracy first before national interests.
     
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    wmghori, yes the companies are near the top of the totem pole if not at the top, but if u read prouty's book the secret team, u will know that this power structure is very flexible and can shift from the cia, to the nsc and to other organizations. The major key is access to information. This is the true power here. This is why i will always believe that nixon was on his way to becoming the most powerful individual in american history. He understood moreso then any other president ever how this power structure was set up and was the only president bold and daring enough to try to set up his own power base that would have eventually challenged the military industrial complex before the bs fairy tale of watergate happened
     
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    Sorvoja you cannot be that naive can you. GW is doing nothing. He only carries out orders from his superiors. This is the role of the president. The last president who had his own mind errr well u know what happened to him(jfk)
     
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