Google's new Algos to Stop GoogleBombing Effect - Introduced

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  1. commandos

    commandos Notable Member

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    #21
    I think they removed them manualy and maybe made something systematic , since they mention there is less than 100 "famous"
     
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  2. Dudibob

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    #22
    Google stated they have hand coded part of the algo to deal with this, Google never hand removes sites but make automated stuff to do it for them, ahh the easy life it must be at Google lol
     
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  3. mvandemar

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    #23
    All they did was disallow sites from ranking on links alone, that's it. That's the big secret.

    Scroll through the serps after doing a search... for a page to rank now, either the phrase itself or some derivative must appear in either the meta description, the title, the body, the url, or DMOZ's description. Since we can't control that for other people's sites (well, unless you find a bribable DMOZ editor), no more bombing.

    -Michael
     
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    #24
    michaelmoore.com does not have "failure" on the homepage, yet it ranks #5 for failure
     
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  5. greenlight

    greenlight Well-Known Member

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    #25
    My guess is that it works something like this. Your site gets flagged for having to many anchors for a phrase, so the algorithm gives you an immediate penalty that sends you to 9000+ results, then another "program" maybe that LSI i read somewhere, comes along and analyzes your website to make sure that your website is appropriate for the phrase, in which case it will remove the penalty. This algorithm is run as Google sees the links and therefore the links have to be "cleared" to get out of the penalty. This is my theory just from my experience with my sites last week.

    My sites got hit with the 9500 penalty for probably 90% of my keywords and then came back in 1-2 days and this happened twice. My sites are relevant and good for content for the keywords and therefore should rank well. For the last 5 days the sites have been stable and back to where they were. From memory the 10% of the keywords that didn't get penalized are not heavily anchored. I thinking that the link processing is what made it happen twice and might happen again, is that Google is applying the algorithm to all of the links as they crawl them and when it hits a threshold it kicks it back into penalty when it recognizes new ones, (or at least new ones concerning the algorithm).

    Just my opinion/theory without much to go on and a very limited knowledge of SEO etc.
     
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  6. mvandemar

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    #26
    Look at the cached version:

    -Michael
     
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  7. thegypsy

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    #27
    Certainly a considerable concept. That's why Bill (slawski) brought up the Phrase based indexing and retrieval stuff. It's really a better step (IMO) than the LSI approach (though it could be used in co-operation).

    What kind of weighting, filtering or penalization it carries, is anyone's guess as always.

    Maybe this is a 'smoke screen' to make algo udjustments and use mis-direction with the whole 'GoogleBombing' bit.. he he

    Break out the tin foil hats
     
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  8. TorchedSEO

    TorchedSEO Well-Known Member

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    #28
    I agree with you 100%, that was the first thing that came into mind when I was looking at the results.
     
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  9. mvandemar

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    #29
    Actually, I think I was mostly right. Still one occurrence, and that's Adobe for [click here]... so, mighta just way boosted the "purely by links" threshold a ton.

    -Michael
     
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  10. oseymour

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    #30
    I'm sad to see them go :mad:
     
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  11. thegypsy

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    #31
    Hey Oral I kept a Play by Play of all the action... Matt took his marbles and went home he he
     
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  12. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    #32
    thanks for the post.....
     
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  13. forums

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    #33
    http://web.archive.org/web/20020802154746/www.uber.nu/2001/04/06/

    It is slow to load so be patient

    This is where it all began - the coining of the term GoogleBombing - and the first attempt to Google Bomb, using this new Phrase.

    It is interesting how one page can make history - and a tactic spread around the world and last for years
     
    forums, Jan 28, 2007 IP
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    #34
    Sorry guys, but what do Googlebombs have anything to deal with spam? Do you think that thousands of people linking to president's site with a "miserable failure" link are spamming? These are just pranks as it is figured in the article.
     
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    #35
    I've noticed that as soon as they changed the algo that my serp positions dropped around 6 positions off the front page. I'm starting to think it was due to my anchor text giving me a bit of a lift.

    Sucks that they changed it now lol :)
     
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  16. the-kids

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    #36
    what i'm worried about,...
    side effects of SERP to any website :(
     
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    #37
    HI,

    Google bombs are Internet pranks. Google heavily relies on the number and the type of links that point to a web site. If many web sites link with a special search term to a web site then the linked web site will get a top ranking on Google for that search term.
    Some people abused this behavior of Google's ranking algorithm to get web sites to the top of the search results that normally shouldn't be there.
    The most famous Google bomb is the miserable failure Google bomb. For several months, the official home page of George Bush was the first result on Google for the search term "miserable failure".

    google is working to fix that..
     
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  18. john269

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    #38
    Thanks for letting us know. But what about links pointing from Forums and things. If you have about 4,000 or more posts then you will have 4,000 or so of the same anchor text pointing to your site. Would this go against your sites ranking or will they just count a certain amount of the same / similar keywords in the anchor text.
     
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  19. TrustNo1

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    #40
    welcome to last week
     
    amnezia, Feb 1, 2007 IP