Trying to get my head around this.....

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by mikeid22, Jan 24, 2007.

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    I have added a page of info on one of my prodcuts, i am going to add lots more on loadsa my products, but first i am hoping to get some feedback on my first attempt to see if i have got anything wrong in a big way..... So and (constructive) feedback would be much appreciated ! (mainly as regards SEO etc)

    The page is here http://www.laughterpromotions.com/Peruvian-Torch-Cactus-FAQ.php

    and the main keyword for the article is "Peruvian Torch" - I used a firefox add-on to check the keyword density and it is at about 1.8% at the moment... I want it to be high enuf to count, but not 2 high to get thought of by google as keyword spamming ! - What do people think? Do i need to change the way i do things before I get on with writing the rest of my articles???? - got about 20 to do and would rather no what i am doing wrong now than after i have written them all ! lol !

    Cheers everyone !

    Mike
     
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  2. thegypsy

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    Hi Mike - no self respecting SEO enthusiast uses KW density any longer (or at least they shouldn't be)

    So make compelling content and look for including other relevant terms and phrases for your chosen targets (KW/Phrase targets)

    ... and all shall be well
     
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    theseokit Banned

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    I agree, keyword density isn't as big of a problem as it used to be, but just to be safe I wouldn't go over 7-8%!

    I would put some more variations of your keyword in the keyword tag and title.
     
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  4. mikeid22

    mikeid22 Notable Member

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    Sorry to be a bit dumb... but what exactly do you mean ? - u mean put more variations of "peruvian toch" in the neta keyword tags? - like say "peruvian cactus" etc? - and in the page title 2 ? - by that u mean the title as shown on browser titlebar? - sorry to be a pain, just wanna make sure i get the right end of the stick ! lol....

     
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  5. theseokit

    theseokit Banned

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    No problem, you got it correct. Just vary it more, take a look at the title in www.simplysweetnails.com you can see what I mean.
     
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  6. oseymour

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    Nails In Helotes - sa tx nails, nails, nails in sa tx | Simply Sweet Nails

    thats not a good example.....its just a bunch of keywords.....and it looks real spammy....If I did a search, I don't think I would click through to your site because the title is not descriptive of the page...
     
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    theseokit Banned

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    um, its just a example. It simply lists where the service is and what it does.
     
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    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    it is spammy and looks unprofessional...if you saw that page in the serps you would not click through.

    If you want your page to be ranked for a local search, you can start by including the business address in the footer of every page including the zip code.
    sorry guys I forgot that this thread is not about simplysweetnails.com
     
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  9. theseokit

    theseokit Banned

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    I did not create this site, it is only a example for local listings.
     
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    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    Its not the best example to give
     
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    theseokit Banned

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    I agree.....
     
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  12. thegypsy

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    ha ha hah a... Laurel and fishing Hardy

    :p
     
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    mikeid22 Notable Member

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    Okay, thanks... I do get the idea tho i think.

    Cheers for the advice, i will try to sort it in the morning !

    Mike


     
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    yeah...that was a pretty good one :D
     
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    Yo Kaptain.. how goes it? [​IMG]
     
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    I fought the keyword density battle years ago and you will always be chasing the algo after the fact. It's like the tail wagging the dog syndrome. Just write good content and pratice good WH basic SEO.
    Good title tags, good descrition and keyword tag without spaming throw in a god heading tage and spinkle the keyword/phrase a few times withing the page without spaming. That being said get some good relevant backlinks.
     
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    I need to respectfully disagree with that statement as an absolute. While it is probably true that spamming a keyword up to 10% density and waiting for traffic to roll in went out with the meta-keywords tag, I don't think that means you shouldn't pay attention to it.

    I've written plenty of pages, and check their KD all the time. There are two clear reasons I can see to do this:

    1. To make sure that your natural method of writing marketing copy doesn't put your keyword density for a single phrase in that spam range of 4-100% :)

    2. To check to see if keyword variations are dense enough to be thought of as the topic of the content. In this case, I'd like to see a KD chart show something like:

    torch cactus
    peruvian cactus
    peruvian torch cactus

    All at the top of the list, but under 2% each. If your list looks like:

    buy now
    paypal accepted
    torch cactus

    Then semantically, your content is about 'buy now', which is a phrase probably used on half the websites on the internet.

    An extreme example I realize, but a valid argument, I expect.
     
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    #18

    Which is all fine and dandy.. I merely said no self respecting SEO - I didn't catch your name? Are you in 'the Biz'?

    If ya'll ain't hurd - it's time to start into content relevance ( semantics and phrase relationship scoring). The days of KW density went by the way side some time ago (2 years for many of us)

    So that was all I was saying. You and everyone else is free to play with KW density all U please... I was merely making a statement about SEO professionals... If you are one.. well... we.. uh... best wishes with that...
     
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    Condescension aside, I think you missed my point. However, I won't clutter up this thread with an argument. Carry on.
     
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    I wasn't being cheeky - You said U disagreed with the statement



    That's what I responded to.. I was wondering whom these experts were that were advising KW density in one's SEO? That's all M8 - don't get excited... I am not worth it
     
    thegypsy, Jan 25, 2007 IP