There won't be any staleness except from sites that are not visited since it will pick up the cached pages I guess.... just a wild guess Maybe this is good Google won't use up bandwidth from your server anymore. Just go to a cache/proxy and pick up what's there. Maybe the cache server/proxy server can ping Google and tell them to go look at a site since they've found out that there's new content.... My guess here is that this cob-web thing has been going on a long time but something broke in the last update, something in their algo interferes with another filter (?), so now these cob-web pages are showing up and they shouldn't....... Googles new notto: "What a tangled cob-web we weave"
A guy over at WMW posted this: "Well I contacted the cob-web.org folks this weekend and they say that they are going to do a manual removal of their site from the search engines. I think this is the core of what caused my problem."
Their sites rankings in Alexa has really gone up over the past few days also. I know Alexa don't mean much, but it still can help with some things.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS : 1. GO TO YOUR ADMIN HOSTING PANEL 2. GO TO IP DENY MANAGER 3. BLOCK THE HOST cob-web.org 4. BLOCK THE IP: 128.238.88.64 all done! Just check one of my sites: check gamingspot.info and check http://gamingspot.info.cob-web.org:8888/ Hope this will fixit.
The thing is that there are thousands of people on the web that have made sites to make money and live from it. They have spent hours apon hours working on their sites and then sites like these come alone and try to wreck your site which can take a few weeks. I have spent over 5 years continously working on my sites where some days I have spent about 30 hours working non stop without any sleep. I don't do that anymore, but the reasons why I did it is to get the sites up quickly and make as much non duplicate content on the sites as possible and then there are these sites that just mirror your site that takes them no time at all and they actually profit from it. If they mirror your site, guarantee that there may be a few visitors that would prefer to just use this mirrored site rather than going to your site.
This is CRITICAL! This site is very bad and is GOING TO DAMAGE USE ALL! This is no kids messing around, this is very damaging to all sites on this WEB! We need to do something about this and quick!!!! I may be going over the top here and it may look like nothing much, but believe me there is more to this than what you think. I have just done a little more research and this is what I had found out in a few minutes. We will all be affected in some way or another. I would say it may be a problem with the Web itself, a hole in it that this site has found or something. Results: 1. Cob-Web is using our domain names as their sub domains and is making our sites look like duplicate content. 2. when you go to http://www.google.com.cob-web.org:8888 or any other site that has the cob-web.org as the main part of the domain then any other links in that site also includes the cob-web.org domain name. 3. This sites domain is generating alot off traffic from our sites visitors. If this carries on then this domain is more like a virus in that it will end up getting most of the Webs traffic. The reasons for this is because if a visitor visits this anysite with a cob-web.org in it then any other site that the visitor clicks on from that site will still have the cob-web.org in it. 4. Forget about people automatically linking back to your site using your "Link to this site using the following link". They will kill this auto linking thing and when someone links to your site they are actually linking to the Cob-Web site. For example. Look at the following ur: http://www.addictinggames.com.cob-web.org:8888/thebubbledressup.html Go down near the bottom of the page and you will see a part that says: Link to this game: Now highlight that code and then insert it into some text file and you will see that even that url in that code is replaced by cob-web.org. This means that they will end up having the back links and PR gains and traffic to their domain name rather than us. So in other words by then doing this we are making them gain alot of traffic to their domain name and also large volumns of PR gain. The domain name is going to become the most used domain in the world by the looks of things unless they can be stopped. There is also no telling that in the future once they have all this extra traffic and PR then they may redirect all of the subdomains to their main page and profit from it considerably. This site is likely to change the Web and how webmaster stuff is done unless it can be stopped.
Doing this may also DAMAGE you in a big way. I may be wrong, but anyway here goes. If there is any site visited with the cob-web domain in it then every link on their site changes and is replaced with a cob-web in the domain. Now what about if a visitor clickes through to your site from the site with a lot of cob-web's in the domains, would they go to your site or would it just say on cob-web's page that this page is un-accessable or something.
Well I do not know how this is justified - we KNOW there is a duplicate content penalty but if you search "buy american spirit cigarettes online" This site comes up on page 1 AHEAD of the page they ripped off - BIG question is does the original webmaster get the affilaite $$ if someone actually searched this term and boought cigarettes from the page ?? www.cigaretteyellowpages.com.cob-web.org:8888/init_page.html
1. read the thread, especially the first post on the first page 2. try http://www.google.com/search?q=site:cob-web.org&hl=en&lr=&start=420&sa=N&filter=0 3. or more specifically yourdomain.com site:cob-web.org
I can't believe that I just got red reputation for my #88 post. I would have thought that I would have got green as there are alot of important facts in it. Mentions that I need to read the whole thread which I did. So there is nothing to worry about even if people start linking to cob-web and not your sites. That seems like it is something to worry about to me. People that has links on their site that allow people to easily grab them so that they can link to a page on their site will end up linking to cob-web's proxy cache page and not directly to yours. Another thing is that when people see things that interest them they normally tell others about it or share it in other forums and email. What about if your link has the cob-web in it. Most people just copy and paste, so you probably will not get any gain from that link. I will now re-read this whole thread and see what I may have missed.
I doubt I am adding anything new but some one as asked about it at the Google Webmaster group: http://groups.google.com/group/Goog...lnk=gst&q=cob-web.org&rnum=1#713efe4e46fb7a15 This was asked on the 20th and no reply from anyone yet. I never go here so not sure if Google even responds or not.
I know I started this post but are we all overreactiong or is this the huge problem that it looks like? I posted on MC's blog but he hasn't responded at all, so I guess he doesn't hink it is a problem. One thing that bothers me is that Google is INVOLVED in all this in more than one way! They are a part of the experiment and I am thinking that what we are seeing is just the top of the ice berg and that this is an experiment that got out of hand and is now spreading like a virus, destroying PR, getting sites penalized for duplicate content since we now are a part/sub domain of cob-web...... GUess we all got tangled in the COB-WEB here?!? While searching the net I have seen people posting URL's to the cob-web server "sub domain" instead of the real URL. Mistake or a sneaky way to get it going? Alexa, well, with all the things that has been written over the last few days they should get a boost and a bad reputation hopefully!
Doesn't think it's a problem? Or: 1. doesn't want to acknowlege the problem? 2. has no idea how to fix it? 3. does not want to discuss it because Google is complicit in whatever it is?
I have read over the thread and would like to mention again that who ever gave me the red reputation gave me it by mistake. I am in the right here. All sites links that are visited through the cob-web site are replaced by cob-web links. Now there are alot of people that own sites that don't know much about html and things. Now if your links on your sites are like: domainname.com.cob-web.org, then these webmasters will link to your site using that domain name rather than just your domain name. I want people to link to my actual domain name and not using the cob-web.org domain name. So it is an issue. Another thing is that if people do link to your site on their pages with something like domainname.com.cob-web.org and Google bans cob-web.org like I already believe they have then would you still get PR gain from that link or will it just be a useless link pointing to your site from a site that has been banned and may look to google as a bad neighbourhood site. Another thing is that alot of people may have linked to your site with domainname.com.cob-web.org by just cutting and pasting the url and then what about if cob-web.org becomes no more. You have then lost all of them links really as they will become dead I believe, when if cob-web.org were not here then them people would have actually used the proper url that doesn't have the cob-web in it.
From what i know there are copyright laws that can protect us from this thing. I made a website, so if anyone clones it i can sue that person, RIGHT? If my site represents a registered trademark, they cannot use my name and my site content in their site. And why is not google/yahoo giving a straight answer?
Searching for "cob-web.org" with quotes in Google then there are over 60,000 pages listed that already have the cob-web.org added to links and it seesm that factbites.com has most of the links. Found this site: mmakers.org and in the Google link: http://www.mmakers.org/index/s/1/l/...u-ask-for-(via-cobweb3.1-kupl1.ittc.ku.edu)/ If you go to that site and look at the source you'll see things added to the title. NOTICE that the domain is not cob-web.org but another edu... Now, would you guys like to have this in your Google link?