PhpLynx Directory Script released

Discussion in 'Scripts' started by cantufind, Dec 26, 2006.

  1. Colleen

    Colleen Illustrious Member

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    #81
    Register_globals should not have to be on to use a script, it's not safe, I'd suggest fixing it.
     
    Colleen, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  2. cantufind

    cantufind Banned

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    #82
    Can you qualify that statement Colleen? I know for a fact that the developers of encryption software tend to disagree with you as does http://ca.php.net/manual/en/security.globals.php they seem to think that it is more of an issue if php is correctly coded or not that makes it unsafe?

    I would be interested in you qualifying that comment though and if it can be supported I'd be the first person to get my programmers to work around this, as would ioncube, zend, et al.

    We are all out to create a secure enviorenment for users of our products.
     
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  3. Colleen

    Colleen Illustrious Member

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    #83
    Shawn (digitalpoint) even said it himself today, so look it up.

    It's your job to know this stuff, not mine.
     
    Colleen, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  4. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #84
    I'm with Colleen on this.

    But even if she's wrong it is now hard to get hosting that have globals on so you are limiting the number of users for your system.
     
    sarahk, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  5. wwws

    wwws Notable Member

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    #85
    Very true and many scripts i've use have the settings to off by default.
     
    wwws, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  6. eddie43302

    eddie43302 Well-Known Member

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  7. paidhosting

    paidhosting Peon

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    #87
    I can offer freebies but sorry i will not turn globals on, just for a script, i told you this before Quote myself "Register_Globals On is going to come and bite you eventually" but you did not listen to bunny well now keep explaining to users here why it needs to be on at all and tell them you are server administrator and have been working with servers for years now like you did to me.

    @collen , no use trying to tell him and purse him to get globals issue resolved as i tried for 1 hr but neither kev nor gary cared , kept saying use .htaccess and some fix gary will work on, that fix i never got hold of so dunno if some fix exits or not. In the future dunno what kev wants to do with the script.

    PS: please remove my aim contact from my id on your forums , i do not want any association with that forum.

    Regards
     
    paidhosting, Jan 16, 2007 IP
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  8. wwws

    wwws Notable Member

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    #88
    Actually, if you read most of the announcement for PHPLYnx there was always apart when he bashes the compitator mainly phpld,(read all the post from the several forums) claiming he's script is better..."my image verification is better" "it's innovative" "eat that phpld:p"..somehow it can't tell what Apple is.

    The truth is, as far as seeing what the scripts so far? It aint bad, but it will take awhile before it can gain the respect of the top Directory scripts like PHPLD,Esyndicat and the other one that I forgot the name off:eek:

    Note: Don't play the harsh tactics on trying to take the big guys with loads of army backing it down. Exploit it in a nice and fair professional/business like manner. Tells us the great features it has but never mention the compitator in a matter like you have in many of your previous post.

    I purchase a domain and I was gonna try your scripts, but last week you kinda lost me with the bad promotional tactics reading from several forums and a few of your army's spamming other forums cut-n-pasting how great it is..lost me.

    Anyways, i'm still open to see what you can do with what is already a good script just a bad start at marketing it.

    Back down a little and rethink, there's alot of room for everyone. In this game, the best doesn't always dominate it is always about good marketing.:cool:
     
    wwws, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  9. Colleen

    Colleen Illustrious Member

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    #89
    He should have promoted this without comparing to anyone/anything period!

    I don't go around saying so-and-so doesn't have better templates/designs, etc than me. I run my business, do my job and that is that.

    Promote it, stick to the topic, don't discredit other peoples work, it's disrespectful. If it's good, we'll all know it. My only concern is the register_globals having to be on, other than that, what I've seen so far of the script, it looks great.

    But the creator need to polish up his act in my opinion and that's just friendly advice.
     
    Colleen, Jan 16, 2007 IP
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  10. cantufind

    cantufind Banned

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    #90
    I'm not used to hanging round on forums Colleen so truthfully didn't quite expect to get stomped on quite so hard and retaliated rightly or wrongly. I haven't disprespected ANY script intentionally, if I have please direct me to each post and I will edit them accordingly.

    Apart from my inability to grasp forum etiquette, its an art in itself, I do speak facts, and can always back them up. I genuinely think you'll find that it hasn't been me who's done the disrespecting. :confused:

    As I said, I am only to happy to edit the posts if I have, just as I'm sure the other script owners would if they have done the same to phpLynx.

    I thought forums of this calibre were all about promoting new things, but equally I do accept that there may be a way of doing so without rubbing people up the wrong way.

    Colleen, thanks for the ticking off, I'm thick skinned and can take it, I'll get there just give me the chance, :)

    Kev

    P.S. I'm communicating with the big players of software like ioncube, zend and others on the issue of globals as there seems to be a mixed consensus on this? I'll keep this forum as well as others informed on the outcome.
     
    cantufind, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  11. an0n

    an0n Prominent Member

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    #91
    Or, he could have just hired me to promote it, like i did phpLD.

    ;)
     
    an0n, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  12. enQuira

    enQuira Peon

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    #92
    this forum is getting more and more the shape of a general chat forums. Anyways ...

    I use phpld now, satisfied with it, though I really want something like edirectory.com for a business directory. I had a look at your script, it is pretty descent and comparable, probably better than phpld, plus it is free! I am not switching right now as I don't see the added features worth the time needed. Otherwise, I think you should give time to your product to succeed, don't expect everybody to switch right away if they will ever do it. you will need theme designers, mods coders, a support community, ... you can't do all that by your self or using paid programmers.
    Keep up the good work and good luck with your script.

    PS: If you are interested in implementing something similar to edirectory but not for that prohibitive $2k price tag, count me as a customer!
     
    enQuira, Jan 16, 2007 IP
  13. Mihai

    Mihai Active Member

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    #93
    This is beautifull.... too bad its so expensive.


     
    Mihai, Jan 17, 2007 IP
  14. zehrila

    zehrila Peon

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    #94
    Sorry to say but this guy is not very techie, he does not know AOL exists in uk as well, he does not know dialup have dynamic ips, he posts users ips on his boards and asks them if it is a proxy and after taking all of your information even your telephone number he bans you.
    Peace
     
    zehrila, Jan 17, 2007 IP
  15. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #95
    Zehrila - what are we talking about now?
     
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  16. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #96
    Do what you have to do, but when coming on forums, cut down on the arguing a little bit. Let the quality of your script speak for itself.
     
    Blogmaster, Jan 17, 2007 IP
  17. cantufind

    cantufind Banned

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    #97
    As has been mentioned in this thread, the decision was made to ban a user named Bunny (apparently Bunny is known as paidhosting here at DP as only someone involved in the chat would be so familiar with what happened that day).

    What was omitted from their comments was that the chat occurred after Bunny asked for help in the forums installing the phpLynx script. Before Bunny was banned (I'll get to that in a moment), there were 2 other users of the script, 3 moderators, one of the script's programmers and myself trying to assist Bunny with setting up the script. All of this help was being given free of charge and on a Sunday afternoon. The fact that Bunny was getting 7-on-one help at a time when many other scripts (not just directory scripts) are unsupported has been conveniently left out of the posts made by paidhosting. I do appreciate the mention that we are the only ones offering LiveChat support.

    When it became obvious that the script was not working for Bunny because of registered_globals not being turned on, everyone continued to try to assist and there was some discussion of a custom solution being designed for Bunny to use.

    It was sometime during this discussion that Bunny felt the need to get be funny (Bunny/paidhosting has since referred to the incident as being a joke). Telling someone who was trying to help them to reformat their HDD using an old DOS command that not everyone may be familiar with is not funny. At best it was ungrateful, at worst it was - well let's just say everyone involved felt it was unacceptable. Five people (3 moderators and 2 other users) agreed with the ban; it was not an arbitrary decision by myself or my programmer.

    phpLynx has been designed as a script to be used by both newbies and experienced directory owners. So, yes, we take a dim view on folks who think it's funny to "share a tip", or however Bunny exactly worded it, that could prove catastrophic for anyone heading this advice.

    Were a similar incident to occur, that person would also be banned. I make no apologies for not seeing any humour in a comment that was repeated multiple times and was not the least bit funny. A joke is only funny when everyone realizes it is indeed a joke. I am only glad that none of the people involved that day tried this solution/joke.

    Yes, Lynx does require register_globals to be turned on and to re-assure people of just how safe it is we have asked well know software companies to come up with their response to the scaremongering. I'll post this as soon as I recieve the reply.

    Our registration form couldn't resolve his ip to acivate his account, we fixed this and dealt with the matter politely, can't figure why he's posting this?

    Yep, I will do, thanks. :)
     
    cantufind, Jan 17, 2007 IP
  18. paidhosting

    paidhosting Peon

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    #98
    @kev, dude at time of chat after format thing(i dunno how come someone can be dumb enough to believe words of other on some live chat thing),all you guys were busy with as i could see was "telling me to enable globals on server for just your script and posting all crap that watchout posted that its safe and other bull about it" i saw no results that day as to any solution proof : http://www.cantufind.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170

    That thread speaks for itself that you guys were not even taking any step to get a fix. And you ban for someone joking around on live chat its not like i was talking adult shit.

    PS: good luck you will need it a lot now, after the way you have decided to promote your script.will not be trying phplynx ever in my life even if you paid me 10K+ bucks ever.

    Regards
     
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    cantufind Banned

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  20. WatchOut

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    #100
    I wouldn't if I was you, once people see how much better Lynx is then they will drop phpld like a brick , and then add, after all, people do drop things with lots of bugs in it, lol

    What are you talking about [​IMG] ??

    I was in the chatroom, and I remember it like it was yesterday, infact you are a stupid liar, just so you all know he was trying to make my friend enter a command in the cmd, which would format his HD, just where his OPERATING SYSTEM was located, and if you did it I would get you, and what if there were actually any person that would execute this command. Wonder how you got the green reputations, by forcing members? I provided you the tutorial where it said that register_globals is not a security issue, so stop lie to everyone that we didn't provide, go to the forums all the staff were there, and that's it go and have fun and if you don't like it, simply LEAVE IT!!! Cya cya [​IMG], and have fun and stop telling things that never happened, waiting for your reply, if you are brave to do it..
     
    WatchOut, Jan 22, 2007 IP