who helped to create and fund hamas and why

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    opinions people
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Bill Clinton, among others in his party.
     
    Mia, Jan 20, 2007 IP
  3. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    Mia, i post a serious question and u come up with a joke? Is this how u debate. I know u dont like debating intelligently but if u want to. Please look up titzak rabin's comments on the foundation of hamas. Please get back to us on this. You might just learn something. People the answer will surprise ya:)
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
    I'm sure many nations have unintently given money that's been transfered to terrorism. Often times Un-workers are from that region, and they offer some of their money (earned from UN organized programs) to hamas.


    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/02/27/eu.palestinians/index.htmlSince
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I am quite serious. The Clinton administrations financial contributions to the Palestinian Authority over the years was funneled directly to HamAss over the years. You asked "who helped to CREATE and FUND hamass" and I gave you an answer on the FUND part.
     
    Mia, Jan 21, 2007 IP
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    at the beginning of its creation hamas was supported by ISRAEL
    check the wiki in rick michael's post just scroll down more for the info
    and some say it was even started by ISRAEL as a counter weight to plo
     
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    Why not quote your assertions w/credible links?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    first of all I remember it from when it was news also there is reference to this in the wiki link in your post scroll down and you'll see it to the section Before 1987
    unbelievable isn't it politics make strange bedfellows
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
     
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    Not seeing it, chief. ^^^That's part of the section above 'Before 1987'. I'm not seeing your reasoning.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    next section a little furthur
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    It's flawed reasoning, at best. I believe he is referring to:

    One, it's hearsay and two, it's in regards to setting up an islamic charity, not a terrorist organization.

    It further goes on to say:

    It's no wonder he most likely chose not to highlight the content. When put into context with the surrounding circumstances, it loses any credibility.

    Clearly, Isreal does not support nor never did support hamas as a terrorist group.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    it is a fact just nobody told you before so you did not know
    muslim brotherhood has always been a terrorist organization and you know some of its most famous members
    read this to get a better idea
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood
    read this and just ask any israeli.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    heh, yeah, a marginal fact with a lot of details omitted for affect.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    muslem broderhood is responsible for most terrorism today. it is it's teaching that both ben laden and his egyptian friend follow.
    this is a big issue please read the wiki it might open your eyes a bit
    or you can check this link
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC0g-x9_NxY&mode=related&search=
    for this knowlege i want a free link in all your directories lol
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    I'd broaden that to say "islam" is responsible for most terrorism today. There are many front groups of the muslim brotherhood. CAIR is one such front group, here in the US.
     
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    at the time that israel started to support hamas they already knew brotherhood is a terrorist organization since they had assasinated sadat at the time
    that is the point israel helped a known terrorist organization responsible for murder of their only friendly arab leader
    yout broaden the topic to dilute the subject we must admit we are wrong when we are so we don't do it again
    that is how we better ourselves
     
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  17. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Source? Who are "we?"

    Did I not just address this above in the "off the wall" and "unsubstantiated" claim about Israel supporting hamas?
     
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    no you did not you just ignored the truth
    we are the people that don't face the facts and are scared of the truth
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Ah, ignored it...ok :D

    I could have swore I "highlighted" it from your obscure and unsubstantiated claims.

    Well don't include "me" in your "we" then. Lest I continue to correct you ;)
     
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    i only included two links both wiki they both have more links if you want to study
    i was following politics at the time and am familiar with this issue
    as i said at the time israelis knew full well that these organizations were part of brotherhood and brotherhood was a terrorist organization
    i am not sure if the egyptian doctor which is ben laden's friend was a spoksman for them at the time or not
    we already includes both me and you
     
    pizzaman, Jan 21, 2007 IP