I personally believe the same... Let people speak what they believe. We don't have to like them. We can actually hate them and not socialize with them... But they are entitled to their opinions in a free world the same way that we are for many of our controversial beliefs.
You are both wrong WW2 started because Italy, Germany and Japan needed resources and to get resources they needed colonies pure and simple .... Victimization of germans was just used to convince people in Germany to go to war .... you know propaganda ... brits don't like us and french are even worse hehe It all really started with Italy in 1935-36 in Ethiopia which was one of only 2 independent african countries So we have Italy and Ethiopia, Japan and China and Germany some say that they didn't even stop WW1 but just regrouped and started all over again At the end it was pretty much about land and oil ( resources )
The US was involved long before that. So much so, FDR was nearly impeached for breaking the law on several occassions aiding the UK in their struggle to remain free.
But USA did not join the war until Pearl Harbor was bombed, so obviously they were not very concerned about what was happening to the Jews in Germany.
Nobody knew what was happening to the Jews. Nobody knew the extent of what Saddam was doing either. But, his actions we could see were enough for us to take action. Only then did we find proof of what he was really capable of. I don't know how common knowledge his rhetoric was but who could imagine it was so much more than just propoganda. If Hitler had otherwise behaved himself the holocaust probably would have been much worse. No one really seems to care about all those dead bodies we found in Iraq because Saddam wasn't really causing much trouble that we could see.
KalvinB and Mia with their lack of knowledge about history, succeed once more to make a fool of themselves.
I guess I just don't enjoy reading your version of history. Re-written history is not on my list of prefered reading.
Do you mean the real history supported by facts, instead of the fantasy one that is made up by you and other half brain bigots?
You're almost as bad as AGS with your insults and childish remarks. Are you gonna start swearing next? You've been called out once again, and instead of taking it like a man, you resort to acting like a baby.
Regarding the St. Louis, and what it showed, I agree with Gworld on this one. The story of the St. Louis was a tragic one, but unfortunately emblematic of the anti-semitism that was all too common among the Western powers and their societies. Regarding WWII and the rise of nazism, I blame the Paris Conference and the Treaty that followed. Hindsight's a bitch, but absent the draconian measures exacted upon Germany, Hitler would not have found the fertile hunting grounds he did. Actually, I'd argue the seeds for WWII go much further back, to the particular nature of German national and economic development from 1848 on, but that's the subject of another thread. Regarding the U.S. entry into WWII, from what I've read of the history, Roosevelt sought it for some time, and Churchill was only too happy for our entry, obviously. Pearl was the match, but the fire was a wanted one. To the topic at hand, "Free Speech" is not in practice a universal, sacred dictum. Even in the liberal, democratic societies broadly proclaiming it, the right to free speech is always weighed against the right of society to protect itself, "protecting itself" being defined in myriad ways. Such is the case with holocaust denial in Germany.
See that's where your "nim"nuts are showing. There IS no debate about the holocaust - it happened. I like to tell my children that people like you are scuzzbuckets, and to hold their noses in your presence and look the other way. One thing about them jews in Israel - they ain't meek about shit. They'll kick your ever-lovin nazi asses you try any bullshit like that again, and there ain't a Christian I know wouldn't be right beside them.