What there are Few Females in DP?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by FireStorM, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. devin

    devin Guest

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    #41
    i was talking about girls, not women. :) i know lots of women who pwn the guys in technology.
     
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  2. FireStorM

    FireStorM Well-Known Member

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    #42
    Hey this was really nice Neogen , Nicely Illustrated
     
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  3. sarahk

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    #43
    What's the age cut off?

    My mother is in her 60's and still goes out with the "girls"

    When my niece was 18 I considered her to be a "young woman"
     
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  4. DeniseJ

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    #44
    I don't even know what specifically to comment on in this thread. I'm a woman (obviously) and I don't hide behind a masculine avatar/screename. I don't care if people know I'm a woman, but other women might prefer to stay anonymous.

    I'm sure there are more men on DP than women, but that doesn't mean we're all off painting our nails and gossiping on the phone. I don't paint my nails, I hate the phone and I certainly don't sit on my ass watching Oprah all day... :p
     
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  5. lpstong

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    #45
    You should have seen the response when I posted here at DP for making my 1000 post. About 75% were surprised I was a woman. It's like, what do I have to write or post like a man? Is there a difference? And how can one tell if one is a man or woman posting on forums? To me I felt I gave no impression that I leaned either way.

    Just plain silly to assume that woman are not tech geeks or otherwise. If you were ever to see my mother's home office.....It is one electric cord and/or storm shy of Dr. Frakensteins lab.

    BTW - NeoGen, soooooooo loved that piece. Bravo, Bravo
     
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  6. KalvinB

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    #46
    http://bookblog.net/gender/genie.html

    I popped your post into that and it came back indicating you were female.

    So yes. You write like a woman.

    I think women tend to be more social and the exact opposite of social is working with computers all day long. I think a more interesting study would be figuring out whether men or women interact with more people in their workplace.

    I personally avoided working as a programmer for a number of years because I didn't want to be socially isolated behind a computer. I prefered working retail or food with a lot of my peers.

    Apparently this post is feminine.
     
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    #47
    Oh there are plenty girl/women geeks out there that kick most of the guy geeks in the ass :p

    CNET posted a top 10 list a while ago, to which I didn't agree of course, but then again who would agree to a geek list that has Paris Hilton on it... so I posted my own list on my blog, http://blog.rihardsonline.com/my-top-10-girl-geeks/
     
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  8. Mr_Kumar

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    #48
    People here on this thread seems to be enjoying and not serious. So do not raise your eyebrows. Stay cool. I think females are less then men (in any forum or company or working place) because even today in almost all countries men is known as bread earner and women can help him if she likes. But men have to do.
     
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  9. lpstong

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    #49
    Rofl.....Thanks. And now I feel secure.

    Btw - thanks for that link.

    And one more thing.....UMmmmm..how to say it nicely.....I guess alot of men are greatly confused than on how a woman would post. Well maybe....lol . But thanks for the post.

    And btw MR Kumar, you are from another country that in no means to be condensending....But I dont think or feel many men from your country value a womans opinion highly. Yes it may be true that men earn more money. But only because of such thinking as yours has placed such a value on woman.

    It is sad to say I am a widow and a mother of two teens. And I am the breadwinner and have done quite well maintaining the finances of my home without a man.
     
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  10. DeniseJ

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    #50
    Here here.

    My mother raised my sister and I just fine on her own. She was the sole breadwinner of the family, and still supports herself just fine on her own. She did whatever she had to do to ensure we had a roof over our heads, food on the table and clothes on our back. I don't know how she did it, but she did, and there are plenty of women who are able to support themselves without the assistance of a man.

    I wasn't trying to start an arguement either, MR Kumar (if you couldn't tell by the smiley.) I'm simply stating my opinion on the matter.
     
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  11. FireStorM

    FireStorM Well-Known Member

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    #51
    I agree with you .. I even know many people who live totally with the support of their wife , the husband doesnt work while the wife works .
     
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  12. Mr_Kumar

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    #52
    Hee heee You are talking about on family or just few family and I am talking about whole world.

    this is just one example
    http://www.stat.gov.pl/english/dane_spol-gosp/praca_ludnosc/kob_mez_praca/index.htm
     
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  13. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #53
    You have said that women are less than men because men are "known" as the breadwinner.

    Cultural norms are based on truths, but understanding the historical context shows that it's no longer relevant. Historically physical strength was important in the workplace, today you can find any number of professions where physical strength isn't a factor.

    So, take away the basis of the cultural norm and what are you left with? Nothing.
     
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    #54
    I see where you are trying to go with this Mr Kumar. But the stats you have provided are just for Poland.

    Man as a whole, in the world are out front as breadwinners if they have a family. Wife, children, dogs, cats etc.

    But overall the balance of Men vs Womain in the working world will be off a bit. Considering there are more woman in the world than men. More woman that are not married vs Men. More woman that are not married that have children. You are speaking of a A typical, hypothetical situation. And by far from a mans point of view. Even if it is partially true. It still goes back from a mans perspective.

    You are right though that many woman who are married do not have to work and do it out of choice. Pfft, whats the point of a marriage, if a man is always gone. If the finances dictate the man can always get a 2nd or 3rd job to support the family but many do not. Options always options.....

    Woman indeed are out and about in the tech world and rising amongst the ranks.

    But lets not lose hindsight of the original post/thread. What there are Few Females in DP? Perceptions. Like I said many people had assumed I was male here at DP and am not.

    Mr Kumar. You are male, with certain perceptions. Which is fine for you and the area you live in.

    But for the most part. Woman are rising in the ranks of the business, science and tech world, politics and so on. But are faced with the challenge of men who think of them as less than for the fact they see them as a woman with a choice of working or not. I Mr Kumar at this moment of my life do not have a choice of whether to work or not. It is mere reality for most woman in many parts of the world.
     
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  15. Mr_Kumar

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    #55
    So does it means that... women bear the responsibility to earn the bread? NO
    It is still responsibility of man, women can help if she likes.

    In any community, if man stay at home and women go out to work then society says...huh to men. But if it is otherwise....no prob then.

    I hope you understand it.
     
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    #56
    Again it is not always a choice for woman who do not have a male conterpart in their lives. Not all woman are married.

    And btw Mr Kumar, while I was married, my husband was terminally ill and could not work. So me working was not a choice, it was necessary.
     
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    #57
    It's not the responsibility of the man and doesn't have to be. A lot of women help share the responsibility to earn money for the household. A lot of women, as lpstong is saying, also don't have a choice -- they need to work to survive.
     
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    #58
    Nope.... You said it again by thinking small group. If you go percentage wise..there are more % of womens who have choice to work or not. But men have no choice... he have to work. (Illness and other problems cover very very mild percentage)

    Well, regarding the original topic...see my earlier posts.
     
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  19. DeniseJ

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    #59
    In this day and age, it's very hard for a family to survive on one income. Many women have to work because of this. We don't necessarily have a choice either, Mr. Kumar but you don't seem to understand that. It's not an isolated condition. It's reality, as lpstong was saying.
     
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    #60
    YEAH... here you are talking logical. But I am so sorry to say that....Human community thinks..women is his responsibility for his complete life, just like children's are till they bring and bought up. May be muscular strength comes in or morals comes in or trend comes in or what ever comes in.....but it is there.
     
    Mr_Kumar, Jan 19, 2007 IP