Atheism is the new religion

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Rez-G, Dec 28, 2006.

  1. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #221
    It's like atheists want to be God's puppets but at the same time don't want to be. The only consistancy is the continued refusal to take responsibility for their own actions.

    God does prevent a lot of evil but other evils he allows for whatever reason. But in the end, all evil leads to good. The only way to stop all evil is to make all his creation mindless.

    It is not God that wishes evil on others, it is people who wish evil on others and God allows it to happen or restrains it according to his purpose. If he refused to allow all evil to happen it would be required that no one had a mind of their own. Being forced to do good is an oxymoron.
     
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    Rub3X Well-Known Member

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    #222
    Who's our evangelical christian president again? Who sent us to a war with Iraq, and has NO clue why? Who bombs abortion clinics? Spreads hate speech against gay people? Pass laws in the U.S that are based on their religion? Are fighting science because it doesn't match up to their make believe book? Think every other religion is inferior? Oh wait christians. Nvm.
     
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  3. skunker

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    #223
    Man you guys...why waste your time? You are not going to convince anyone of anything. This thread will go on for eternity just like some of you will be dead for eternity.
     
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  4. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #224
    lol

    who? They obviously don't follow the Bible if they are bringing their form of judgement on someone - so I don't think they are Christian

    2 parts on this one: 1. everything that is not possitive is called hate speach now
    2. the "god hates fags" group also fits the description of the abortion bombers - don't follow Christ's teaching.


    The new laws being passed are anything but Christian - the old laws are based on the ten commandments and laws such as bankruptcy have their roots in the old testament.

    Fighting science? I think not. Not taking all theory as fact - well of course! I have many scientific theories and I wouldn't expect anyone to take them as fact or Law unless they are PROVEN so. duh...


    every religion thinks other religions are inferior - another duh

    sure are bigoted aren't you.
     
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    eXe Notable Member

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    #225
    http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/atheismreligion.html

    Also, I see no reason to treat any religion with undeserved respect, be it Christianity or Islam.

    To quote from Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion:
     
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    #226
    ...and they legalized marijuana in OR and CA. So a nutjob in one state isn't much different than nutjobs in other states.

    Don't respect a religion, but be respectful towards all people.
     
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    #227
    Whether or not you think they are christians, THEY did it because they were christians. Christianity was the cause for the bombings. If christianity didn't exist it never would have happened.

    ORLY? The word god is on our currency, in our pledge, there are STILL blue laws till this day, good ol' Bush vetoed a steam cell research bill, need I say more?

    So why are evangelicals fighting evolution? It's a scientific fact...

    Agreed.

    What's wrong with marijuana? Why is it illegal?
     
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  8. Jekka

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    #228
    Marijuana is damn dangerous stuff. No details, but my kid is without her father because of it.
     
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  9. Will.Spencer

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    #229
    Rub3X:

    MJ is illegal because the voters keep voting for it to be illegal.

    That's the bitch of living in a democracy.

    Jekka:

    Like anything else, MJ is dangerous if you're weak and stupid. Knives, guns, cars, alcohol, voting, talking -- all of these are safe for some people and dangerous for others.

    Don't blame the tool -- blame the fool who didn't know how to use the tool.
     
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    #230
    A nutjob will use anything to further their cause - if not blowing up a clinic, they would do something else. If they were Christians - "Christ like" they would kill no one - like Christ did. (simple math)


    Older laws etc... like I said.
    No need for steam cells whatever those are.
    He vetoed stem cell bill because of the unneccessary murder of babies.
    Stem cells can be harvested in many ways - you 'should' have stem cells in your own body unless your immune system is nill. Most of the stem cell - abortion activists are not giving you the whole story. Do some research.



    lol - you and ferret should get along really well - dinosaurs! did that scare you? it scares him when someone says dinosaurs!
     
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  11. KalvinB

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    #231
    So I'm not sure how one ends up dead after using MJ. Unlike alchohol which brings out your repressed personality, MJ just mellows you out. There's no such thing as a raging MJ user. Drunk assholes become raging assholes. Assholes that use MJ become tolerable.

    MJ isn't dangerous. Idiots are dangerous.
     
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  12. skunker

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    #232
    SO, why do you wanna take MJ anyways? To be cool with your friends? What a lame excuse. Just like those little teenie boppers that smoke and drink at the age of 14 just to impress their older friends. Riiiiiiiiiiiight. The peole I know that use MJ are not doing too well in life right now. Hope you are the exception.
     
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  13. KalvinB

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    #233
    Strawman argument. I started smoking cigarettes because I wanted an easy way to destress. My friends gave me a hard time about it. One of those same friends then turned around and started smoking to destress. One of us managed to not get addicted. The reason I didn't get addicted is because I would pay for an entire pack but only smoke one or two and give the rest away. To stop smoking I smoked all of the remaining stale cigarettes in the pack at once. I managed one puff before I had to spit them out. I refused to get addicted and now I only smoke in certain social situations because I want to. Nobody has ever offered me a cigarette. I ask for one if I want one.

    I smoke because I like the feeling that comes with it. One cigarette equals one beer minus the hangover.

    If you tell your kid they only want to smoke to be "cool" they're going to think you're a jackass. You're better off being honest and letting them know other ways to stop stressing and the dangers of addiction. I know how to manage stress so I don't use drugs to deal with it.

    I'm willing to bet that most kids start smoking to help deal with stress but parents are too ignorant to realize it and just belittle them with idiotic accusations about trying to be "cool." Not only do they not feel cool but now their own parents are telling them they're not cool. That's a real nice thing to say to someone in an age group whose major source of stress is socially induced.

    They're not smoking to be cool and fit in. They're smoking because they're stressed out because they don't fit in. Nobody has ever accused me of not being cool because I didn't smoke. Ever notice that the kids who tend to smoke are the outcasts?
     
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    #234
    Everyone has their own personal tastes. We should all be respectful of each others choices -- as long as we are not harmed by them.

    MJ isn't my thing, but I am cool with anyone who enjoys it. Tonight, my thing is Canadian rye whiskey and caffiene (Coke). It's all the same thing to me.
     
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    #235
    I personally had problems with stoned people being very annoying. The worst part is the killing off too many brain cells.

    So, I agree mj isn't that dangerous, just stupid. What I hate are the lies surrounding MJ. Stuff like it doesn't cause lung cancer, etc...

    I know one guy who smoked mj for propably around 6 years ended up with a brain tumor (cancer causing for those who think otherwise) and after he almost died and has a dent in his head where they cut his skull to releave preassure, now he is on medical mj and does nothing. arrggggg what a bunch of crock.
     
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    #236
    Hey Kalvin,
    I respect your response. Thanks.
     
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    #237
    I understand where you are coming from, but how do you know if the MJ caused the cancer in your friend? Cancer is a funny animal, so many things can cause it. I was reading an article about how 80% of the people who die by 80 or whatever have cancer in their body in some stage. Prostate is the most common...most men have it...and don't know it even when they die.
     
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    #238
    OMFG you are by far one of the dumbest people on this forum. They don't kill babies for it FFS. Educate yourself you fool.

    Yet again you're a complete fool. I won't even bother retorting to such a disgustingly inaccurate BS response. Just know that you're a complete and total tool

    HA! Let's go take a look at why it was banned.
    blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html


    Not a single record of anyone dying directly from MJ in the world. Very nice try though




    And to all..drinking and smoking is far more dangerous to your body than MJ.
     
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    #239
    so you dont know what partial-birth abortion is then I take it. (We are talking stem cells not FFS)


    sorry stoner. your miracle toke isn't all its cracked up to be. No one knows for sure how he got the cancer, but it didn't help to smoke so much pot. The kid is plain dumb - he acts about 12 most of the time - this is common amongst pot smokers I have met, they tend to be mentally crippled at about the age they started smoking it.

    drinking yes, smoking cigs is about the same, depends on how much you smoke of either, one just keeps you dumber
     
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    #240
    I'd advise you to tread VERY carefully here. Your post has been reported for that crass comment alone. You are way out of line. I do not need to justify myself to the likes of you but you are wrong. Guns don't kill people, it's an inanimate object, but the effects of what guns can do does kill. Marijuana is the same.

    Will:
    That is an unfair assessment, presuming that the weak and stupid are the only ones who have trouble with the drug.
     
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