Who is misleading millions of Christians - God or Devil ?

What are trying to say, except desperately trying to look smart?

 

I am stating that if you did, the answer to the "Is there a God" question would probably sway you.

Let's start smallish... do you know how mass effects C?

 

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about because it proves no such thing. Are you tired of pretending to be LAPD and do you want to pretend you are a scientist now?

 

Maybe he didn't go to collage like you did?

 

Never said I was a scientist.

That said, lets look at this: How can you say Mass and C cannot be the first step in proving God? Are you reading my mind again or just making another strawman attack for bolstering yourself?

CxM2=???

can you answer this?

 

It is very common for me to make spelling mistake since I am not and never was a good typist, but it is comforting that while I defeated you on every discussion about different subjects which was later on confirmed by actual events such as US supreme court decision and the admittance of mistakes by Bush, the only thing that you have to hang on is a spelling mistake form 2-3 years ago.
It is further proof of how desperate you and your friends are becoming.

 

Why? Why must something had to have created all this? Trees are living organisms, as are grass; oxygen is composed of materials long ago discerned by science; humans, sharing so much of the same genetic structure as as apes (what - like 99% of the same genes as chimps?) and other primates (here, a quick search yielded this:

-http://www.genome.gov/13514624 (the genetic similarity has been well known for some time)

-animals, grass, all of the things you mention, all have identifiable biological structures and processes that science has been able to tease out for some time now. It may be that a Creator set all this in motion, or it may be a wondrous, happy accident; to impute final authority on any of it is to stop the search.

PS: Sorry, I was originally just going to post, "why?" but this was too short a message by DP protocols.

 

and yet you cannot do a simple mathematical formula?

 

I believe I know what Mr Mojo is trying to talk about. Obviously he doesn't know what he is talking about if I am right. I first want to see what else he has to say since he is looking at this thread.

I'll just say it doesn't really prove there is a god.

 

Sir Roger Penrose would differ with you I imagine....

 

If you have anything to say then say it.

do you know:

(re2 / r2) g= ???

½ mv2= ???

MC2= ???

but on the other hand, what those prove?

 

you're spouting random equations (and in part, not whole equations) and you expect that to take the place of an honest reply?

seriously, take a shot. I highly doubt either of you have an idea of what Im going to say. Or does the absolute dread of being shown something strike such fear into you that you cannot even pretend to play along without using adhominem and strawmen?

 

So what part of the article that you have linked to proves that there is a God?

If you had anything to say, you would have said it by now.

You didn't think we would be impressed just because you link to wikipedia, did you?

 

OK, try to keep up. This is how it works, see how the linked portion is on Penrose's name? that means it's a link to "about penrose".

welcome to the internet, though!

 

You are so smart.

I see you still have nothing to say. Did someone told you that this was relevant?

 

Depends on what he studied now doesn't it? Relevance has everything to do with it, see, I said Quantum Realm, he was very much (read: Heavily) involved in quantum mathematical (theorhetical) physics... so much so that it led him to be quoted as saying "It seems the entire Universe is nothing more than a passing thought in the mind of God".

Sagan was also a closet believer (yes, the same Carl Sagan many purport to be an aetheist was actually agnostic. You can note this by his use of capital U's and C's for Universe and Cosmo's, respectivly.

 

"Recently the media has reported that scientists have discovered supernatural purpose to the universe. The so-called anthropic coincidences, in which the constants of nature seem to be extraordinarily fine-tuned for the production of life, are cited, in these reports, as evidence. However, no such interpretation can be found in scientific literature. Based on all we currently know about fundamental physics and cosmology, the most logically consistent and parsimonious picture of the universe as we know it is a natural one, with no sign of design or purposeful creation provided by scientific observations."

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/stenger_intel.html

By: Victor J. Stenger

You can aslo refer to work by: Theodore Schick Jr., Quentin Smith, Richard Carrier and many others.

 

OK, since you want to ignore my statements and try to delve beyond it... allow me to ask you...

If you were a two dimensional creature.. would you understand..or even conceive of the concept of "Up"?

 

What the hell are you talking about?

 

I wonder what Rev 12:7-9 says about this very clearly?