This is NOT a PR Update

I'll call it Mother if it means I don't have to see images of Matt in a thong

Patrick, I am guessing that this data is from sometime between mid Sept to End Nov. I am basing this on deeplylinked which we launched on the 9th Sept. It is deffo not earlier than Sept9th

 

so we should always expect that the PR that we see is out dated?

 

Depends what you mean by out dated. It's not like a stock option, where it's value a couple of months ago is most likely not going to be today's. Yes, in some instances there will be wild variations... but based on toolbar PageRank it's still usually safe to say you can better spend your time going after that PR6 DMOZ link than the PR2 one on any given day.

But if you are asking if it is a case of always showing a historical snapshot, then yes, it is always out of date.

-Michael

 

This is exceptionally misleading Michael.

A DMOZ link is actually a rather poor link lacking any sort of real anchor text a majority of the time whereas a good anchor text link, regardless of PR, can certainly provided you with more benefit.

So no, I don't think it is ever safe to say one's time is better spent obtaining one link over another solely based upon PR especially in the case of the DMOZ.

Dave

 

And that's why you should go after keyword domains

 

And you'd be wrong.

-Michael

 

And if that's what you really believe, then what little bit of credit I've given you is far, far, more than you deserve.

Dave

 

I have an opinion on this... my employer's website just got a pr6, google shows 7 backlinks, msn shows 15 - hardly worth mentioning as I read about people with thousands and thousands of back links.

Does this mean that you don't need back links to get PR? well my story doesn't prove that since there are some backlinks but apparently that's not all there is to it.

Want to check it out? www. sigmatool. com

(pay no attention to the awful design, I'm working on a new one )

Lisa

 

You are not stupid. PR is CONSTANTLY being changes by Google. PR is the tangible reflection of a complex formula that ranks the relative value of the pages of your website as compared to other similar pages.

Every few months, Google EXPORTS the PR value that already exists in its databases so it is accurately reflected in the Google toolbar.

So in summary, the page rank you see reflected in the Google Toolbar is NEVER up to date. Since PR changes continuously based on a mathematical formula, Google releases periodic updates that keep the PR display in the toolbar as up-to-date as possible.

So yes, the PR in the toolbar is updated, but it is not up to date, or necessarily relevant to traffic, income, or anything else.

 

PR is a function of backlinks. Let's not get into conspiracy theories.

 

It's not the quantity of backlinks that gives PR, it's the PR value of them. A PR6 could be attained from one PR7/8 link depending on it's strength and number of other outgoing links from the page.

Also bear in mind that Google doesn't show all of a pages backlinks. Just because MSN shows more doesn't mean Google doesn't take them into account.

 

If it is called a PR update or If it isn't called PR update.

I got PR 5 for some directories of mine

That's all I know myself.

 

Quite true. Although it does bring in some PR juice, relevancy is another issue.

 

Lisa, as MattUK pointed out, it only takes one link to make a PR6 page... and sometimes it doesn't even have to be a higher PR link. If you were to get a link from another strong PR6 page, one that wasn't overloaded with other outbound links on it, then you might wind up with a PR6 page. PM'ing you what I mean.

-Michael

 

I think the big problem here is that no one really knows how Google PR works.

Every comment here is an opinion and NOT exactly how Google calculates PR.

It is about how one person has had success with PR and another has not.

Fo example, getting high PR backlinks does NOT necessarily mean that you will get a high PR for your site even links from the same industry.

But that is just my opinion, from experience. I am sure others have a different experience to this and will shout me down.

But that is why NO ONE knows exactly how to get a website a decent PR.

 

When I clicked on this thread I thought I am going to read some hi-fi scientific information, leacked out from google..

Thanks Matt, but I think we all already know what you have written there.. its no info..

 

i think i'll call it "a random fluctuation in pointless green stuff"

 

Yes thay do, the problem is many people quoting what they believe to be true as fact when it is complete rubbish.

If people would only read these perhaps there wouldn't be so much rubbish spouted

http://www.google.com/technology/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank
http://www.iprcom.com/papers/pagerank/
http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html

 

I'm so glad for sane people in this world.

-Michael

 

Sorry to disagree but folks dont really know how Google PR works, apart possibly from Google

Two similar websites with identical backlinks, very similar content and age will not necessarily have the same PR.

A website that has been building quality, relevent backlinks over a period of time, natural links, with good, unique content that was PR 5 is now PR 3

The site has been following Google guidelines for improving PR yet it loses PR?