Hey guys, Just wanted to tell ya that I was also terminated after making over $100,000.00 with YPN. What they first did was disable my ad-targetting, saying it wasn't generating enough leads. Here is that email: A few weeks later, they sent me an email telling me I was terminated. The only ads showing on my site were random ads, so I don't even know how they would convert anyway. The second email I got was that I was terminated: So guys, I don't know what to say about YPN. If you make too much money, they will terminate you, which is all I know. I talked to the lady that terminated me on the phone, and she was telling me my clicks were not generating enough conversions for the advertisers. Some of the junk ads that were showing on my site were random junk ads, which would not convert anyway. I would recommend not to use YPN as your main source of income like I was doing since they do not care if your terminated or not, because if you make too much money, they will terminate your account without any warnings. -Inferno3387
I'm sorry for your bad experience with YPN. At least you may still get your check though, unlike if you were terminated by Google.
Really sorry for u. This could happe nany1 of us. I made more than that with YPN and I check my emails several times a day just to be up to date with YPN. It is my main income because no other program pays that close.
ypn doesnt terminate if you make too much money. they terminate if your visitors dont convert, which is stupid in itself. it looks like you also got a great warning. they told you that your visitors were not converting and disabled your ad targetting. this is the first time i have heard of them doing this. this should have been your sign to do something. im not trying to rank on you. i feel for you. but you made some great cash with them and im sure you will be fine. i wonder what that hundred grand would convert to in google? 15k? 20? good luck to you. once again i go back to what i have been saying all along. ad targetting is not the way to go (unless you want to go out the door) jmo
wow...just out of curiosity, were your ads not matching when you did the ad targetting? This really sucks dude, hopefully you can get in with google or something...
What doesn't make sense is that YPN blames the publisher when the advertiser should be responsible for converting the traffic with their website. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
You may have used Ad Targeting "Credits and Finance" or anything which pays high CPC but the content must not be matching with those ads. Many of YpN publishers are doing this mistake. No matter what's the topic of the website, everyone choses ad targeting related to finance. That not gonna work with YPN. Just my two cents. Maverick
Thats what I think, but I also agree with lurkster have you ever seen any of the companies that are advertising? There sites look like crap...you go there and immediately you want to leave.
I was targeting ads that went toward the visitors of my site. My site was mostly centered around older people. After they took the ad-targeting away, I started getting crap ads that had nothing to do with my site. So, no I was not doing it way off, my site was targeted toward the people that actually visited it.... BTW, I have actually started using another company, and Im making almost 2x as more as I did with YPN
congrats...but was the content you had on your site related to what you were targeting...I may be misunderstanding your post...but it sounds like you targeted based on the audience instead of the content.
For clarification, did your termination just happen? I am curious because this is the first I have heard of YPN issuing a warning to publishers re: low quality conversions. That would have made your initial warning sometime around Christmas, correct? If disabling ad targetting first becomes Standard Operating Procedure at YPN, I for one consider this fantastic news for the rest of us. I would say sorry to hear that you've been booted, but it appears you landed on your feet nicely.
I just don't know about YPN anymore... They are kissing advertisers' butts... but what they don't realize is that if it wasn't for the publishers they would have a YPN... it would be called YAN "Yahoo Advertisers Network".... They need to let publishers do what they want on their own sites... other companies let publishers allow what ads to be shown... If the ads converts or not... that is a chance an advertiser has to take... there is no guarantee that the money they spend will give them what they want... It's like when you are in business and you send out 10,000 coupons... are you going to get a 10% return every time? probably not! If you don't get a return at all that is a chance you have to take... My ad targeting was taken off as well... and it seems like as the days go by the less and less money is being made... I targeted ads that catered to my users as well... I didn't want the ads displayed on my site go to other sites like mine... Why would I advertise for my competitors? To be honest with you my clicks have gone WAY down because of it... with the same amount of traffic... They were interested in the ads that I was displaying when I could target them... They need to get in tune with the publishers and put themselves in our shoes and understand a bit better if they really want to be on top of Google and MSN... I made $xxx,xxx last year with them.. you would think they made at least $xxx,xxx,xxx from the ads on my site... You would think they would be happy and let you do what you’re doing because it's working... So what if the advertisers complain... they are taking a gamble when they spend their money for advertising... just like in poker... you win some and you loose some...
advertisers provide the budget. if your ads dont convert and advertisers have no choice but to pull out - then ypn loses money. nobody is in the business of losing money - i agree with you the advertiser has to take a gamble on advertising. thats the whole point of advertising. win some lose some. but until ypn has effectively given advertisers the ability to control how "in" they are with content network, it is understandable. if i was paying 5 bucks a click i would not want my ads shown on an mfa site or a site that was totally unrelated to my niche and moreover, if a site was eating up my budget and i was not getting a return, i would not want my ads on that particular site. however, i would want to be on that other site that is converting and is related. currently you are either in or out. ypn wants them in, publishers want them in. but it is all pointless if they dont stay in. to use your analogy - if i send out coupons and in area A nobody uses the coupon, i dont coupon that area again. instead, i'll increase my focus (and advertising dollars) on area B whose coupons converted and worked well for me. here, we have the choice. currently, advertisers have 1 choice. in or out. can you really blame them if they are losing money? jmo
I Think there should be an option for the advertisers to have in the CP to block thier ads going to any site if they think they are not getting what they want out of it....
Hey Inferno - that really sucks! Where was the traffic coming from & how was it being generated? Arbitrage? I hope I'm not at risk, too.