Despite everything I have tried, I just can not get ANY decent search engine rankings in Yahoo even though Google loves me and I have a lot of #1 terms in Google. I would appreciate any comment you may have. Here are the details My site has been around for over 5 years. Google has indexed over 7500 pages. The site is a PR5 with some PR5 interior pages and a ton of PR4 Google shows 271 back links Alexa rank of @40,000 Tons of new content ecommerce site with about 4000 uniques per day Some examples Poker DVD #1 google nowhere yahoo Poker Chip Case #1 google nowhere yahoo Dice Poker Chip #1 google nowhere yahoo Las Vegas Discounts #3 & 4 google nowhere yahoo I know they are different alogorythms and you can trick yahoo more with black hat seo, but I can't figure out why I don't show up anywhere. I have tried specific seo landing pages for yahoo. I am in the yahoo directory. Thank god for google listings since it is the big guy. It would be nice to get Yahoo as well.
I've noticed that a blog sometimes gets better rankings on Yahoo. Do you have a blog or other updated content?
Dont worry i'm in the same boat, Yahoo doesnt show me any love either: I dont show up on the serps :|
The daft thing is that sometimes you end up with less traffic from Yahoo Search when you're in their directory because their search results displays their title and description for your site, and not your page title and description. You can always try submitting to Yahoo Sitemaps though: https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/mysites
It's because we spent more time adjusting for google, like certain things that SEO does is intended mainly for Google. So you really have to pick and choose what engine will drive the traffic for you - Yahoo doesn't like me either, and it's because we're optomizing for Google's algorithm which is not the same as Yahoo - although Yahoo is trying to become similar.
Are the keywords in your title tag? I know that has helped me A LOT. Also keywords in your domain? Good luck, Aaron
Try to maintain your good business position on Google. As far as I know Yahoo is not very hard to trick with immoral tactics... Regards
Do you have a lot of affiliate stuff? Yahoo simply HATES sites with too much affiliate stuff... like an overbearing duplicate content filter
Yes, we have affiliate stuff, but 95% of our links are redirects. We also have over 1800 affiliates who send us traffic which adds to our linking strategy. @Slincon - thanks for the tip. we have our google and regular xml site map. we will craft one for yahoo. Yahoo has butchered our description terribly and it does not indicate what our site is really about. Do you think it is worth it to cancel the directory listing on Yahoo?
I suspected as much... what's the ratio of Affiliate content to NORMAL content? Like I said many, many folks with a fair amount of affiliate stuff tend to get tanked in YaH - very common
Don't pay to get listed on any search engine [period]. It's most likely not worth it, and the reason why is that the big search engines use spiders to automatically crawl sites - so as long as your site is linked to be one other site in the search engines database - you should soon get added. Yahoo and MSN (i think) have paid directory listings, but I wouldn't recommend paying for it - because you can get in there for free - once your site is indexed. For your description problem, ensure your meta tags are working properly - make sure you have meta tags for description and that you put a short but concise description in there. I think yahoo will use that description if it exists in the meta tags, but if it doesn't fine the meta tags - it reads your html code - and it will just post everything after the <body> tag.
I have several blogs that get about 1,5-2k visitors from Google and about 300-500 visitors from MSN, but not any from Yahoo. I don't understand why is that so...
@thegypsy - we have about 25% of our site (1000 pages) devoted to reviews, news, articles dealing with gaming and poker. Each of these pages has many links to online poker/casino affiliate programs. Since our site is all static pages, we are slowly adding in redirects to all the pages. It is funny. If what you say about the affiliate programs is true (and it sounds very plausible and reasonable to me) then what we are doing to increase our inbound links might pay dividends with yahoo as well. @slincon - our pages are very well created and have crafted individual titles, descriptions and keyword metas in each page.
You could consider it like an over aggressive part of the YaH duplicate content filter... there are those 'tin foil hat' types that believe it's because of Yahoo Shops.... not I though.. no conspiracy stuff here .. for one reason or another though, there are a lot of angry folks with substantial affiliate content being tanked in YaH - so that's my thoughts on that... I have not had clients nor direct experience in this (affiliate based sites).. just problem solving aournd various SEO boards...
Removing the link in the directory does not work. I have a site that I the directory fee hasn't been paid for 2 years and the listing is still there and the title is still the one that was in the directory. i've seen evidence of the title and description remaining the same even after Yahoo dropped the directory listing...
make sure your not copying content - or posting articles. It's the stupidest seo tactic that people are spreading. Yahoo is a little wacky, it relies on backlinks but it also takes its own services into consideration. Not 100% verified, but I heard that even goes so far as adding points for if urls are in e-mails sent to a yahoo mail account (again this is not confirmed, just a rumor) but basically they're algorithm is not as transparent as Google's. So do a free submit to yahoo - then check to see if your listing appears in the index. Paying yahoo will only ensure that your site gets looked at, it doesn't ensure that you'll be added to the database or directory - which is why it's not worth it.