Well, i own a free file hosting website, i see all the top file hosts on alexa are listed on dmoz, well im kind of getting the feeling its impossible to list My website on dmoz, i mean the editors which already exist there might be able to add it. Is there anyway that i can hire someone to do list it for me? if so where? How much would it cost? I realy need a reply, thanks!.
Before it went down for a while there were well over a million sites waiting for a review and only enough editors to add around 20,000 sites a month, sometimes less. How long do you think the wait might be in an area that, to be honest, volunteer editors are likely to show little if any interest in. There are ways, most of which are illicit and liable to get you a ban as well as lose you the money. But why waste your money? The value of a DMOZ listing is marginal and easily recovered by anyone who knows how to market a site properly. Be aware that it is not uncommon for those wishing to buy a DMOZ listing to be scammed by people who are not editors, and/or can't list sites in the right category. And if you are bribing someone then you don't really have anyone or anything to complain about - you are as bad as the person you are bribing. The reply you really need is that you really do not need a DMOZ listing to market your site effectively. Forget it and move onto more productive marketing techniques.
Hi, Firstly thank you for your nice reply. Well i dont actually want to get listing in dmoz for marketing, On alexa, The top sites usually are listed in the dmoz directory and i could have my own rank in the file hosting section on alexa. but without being listed on dmoz, i couldnt have a rank on this page http://www.alexa.com/browse/general/?&CategoryID=525077, i think alexa should change the way they work and stop using dmoz, Do you understand what im saying? Thanks,
DMOZ listings have limited value. Alexa rankings have even less value. Stop worrying about both of them.
Well to me i always look at alexa rankings, thats what i use to see if i have more traffic then my competive file hosts. And if i have a popular alexa ranking the websites reputation would increase too.
You are mistaken. You need to understand what the Alexa rankings are based on, which is simply visits to a site from individuals who have the Alexa toolbar installed. That is a limited and highly biased sample. And consequently that renders the Alexa statistics pretty much useless as a measure of anything at all, especially anything that has to do with quality ot popularity. How many people do you knopw who even have the Alexa toolbar? How many of those are webmasters worried about their Alexa rankings? How many of those are ever going to do business with you on your website?
Well that could be your opinion, But to my estimate(Which seem correct, one in 150 visitors to my websites user an alexa rank, and that seems to be corrent for one of my competitors too, it justs gives me an estimate on how much visitors might be visiting there websites, I know alexa rankings may not be important to some of you but it just seems important to me some time. It gives good reputation of websites, if your in alexa top 500 or something. Alexa is the way users see that youtube is a popular site or google, msn, yahoo. So my website could be one of them too one day. Hopefully.
No, it's not just my opinion. It's statistical reality. If it makes you feel better to believe it means something, go ahead.
Sorry if i offended you by saying "opinion" or something, I will go ahead in looking at statistics. Its very acurate in sites above the top 500 btw, Thanks for your replys btw, Emre
I don't think you offended minstrel. He is just stating a fact that dmoz nor alexa matter much when it comes to any type of ranking especially since alexa's ranking is only getting a small sample of the population.
Alexa is crap, I got my site to ~65,000 and this was after I started using toolbar - in plain English my rankings have jumped tens of thousands just by my use alone! If I don't visit my website for few days, alexa droops drasticlly. Once I fix CMS and add forum to my website I'll probably be spending entire day on it and alexa will make me no.1 on the net!
As alexa only ranks on its own toolbar use, then yes it is easily manipulated. However, for you to get to ~65,00 probably means you are re-loading your site 5000-10000 times per day? That is not my estimate, do the maths! What is the 3 monthly average without you visiting your site more then a couple of times a day? Tell me that (without cheating), and I will tell you a mildly accurate pagerank of your site, without having any prior knowledge of your site! Alexa is good, if people aren't gaming the system. Unfortunately, people always will - for whatever reason.
You've missed the point. The primary problem is not that it's easy to manipulate (although it is). The primary problem is that it is a statistically skewed and non-random sample, and therefore meaningless as a measure of anything of any significance.
Its my home page so it loads each time I start browser. No idea, you'll have to check that out http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.vojska.net http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=http://www.svijetfotografije.com I have installed A9 toolbar in second half of 2005, so change is more then evident.
When did it become a fact that dmoz doesnt contribute to ranking? Its minstrels opinion not a fact. I also think when comparing two sites of the same topic on alexa it is relevant, it doesnt matter what kind of people have the toolbar installed if its the same topic.
First, that's not what I said. What I said was that a link from DMOZ is worth no more and no less than an equivalent PR link from any other relevant page. In other words, you don't get anything special just because it's from DMOZ. Second, it's not just my opinion. Do a search for Matt Cutts + DMOZ. No only is that incorrect. but it can't possibly be correct. Alexa data is gathered from the Alexa toolbar. They cannot collect Alexa data from anyone who doesn't have the Alexa toolbar installed. That's what makes it useless as a measure of anything useful.
Well not everyone beleives everything he says, i would hold a dmoz link of more value than a link with the same pr. You have a site on fish and a competitior has a site on fish, even though the data is collected only from those with it installed your sites both have the same amount of chance of getting visited by someone with the toolbar. Natuarally the higher traffic site is visited more times. Id agree comparing un-related niches alexa is worthless but related then it isnt.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course. Mine, however, is based on a knowledge of statistical sampling and on statements from someone with inside knowledge of Google and its algorithms. Yours is based on ???
Your probably right, i havent done any research into it since dmoz doesnt really bother me that much. A link in dmoz leads to more backlinks such as from google dir and other sources using the db thats why i could rather a link there over a link in another dir with the same pr.