Ok, so dug around a little, pinpointed the snapshot: Oct 15 post on Matt Cutts blog has PR5: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/email-is-the-bane-of-my-existence/ Oct 17 has none: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/other-googlers-you-should-read/ Making this snapshot somewhere between October 15, 2006 @ 9:23 pm and October 17, 2006 @ 11:49 am (I'm guessing both times are Cali time zone, PST). So any links you got after that would not be showing up. Anyone who has any evidence of a date other than these (site bought after Oct 17 has PR, for example), please post, thanks. -Michael
what do you mean by links the links pointing to the site (external links) or pagerank on your internal links
Your dates tie up with mine pretty much, Launched sites in early october which i started builing links for in early november so i'd say your pretty close
Hmmm... ok, I have never seen this before. Now, are you positive you didn't type that post while sitting in the middle of a giant particle accelerator, or... use the numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, & 42 in an adjoining post... or maybe you posted while sitting on a island where people with names like Kate Austen or Claire Littleton happened to be hanging about...? http://www.thedirectoryblog.com/directories/a-new-directory-for-members-of-digital-point/ does definitely have PR. Could we have multiple snapshot dates going on? I mean, I know we already have weirdness with the whole Digg (and others) going PR0... so, any other theories? -Michael
I think MattUK in another thread hit it right on the head. Snap shot day could be whenever, but its the sites last cached date that then shows. So it is possible to see blogs with posts on the 16 of october with no pr, simple becasue it did not get cached until after the snap shot date. Remeber cached and spidered are 2 DIFFERENT things.
well i dont buy the whole snapshot thing. Heres Why: I have a site that i started in october and even today the frontapge is PR0 but some of my inner pages have been granted PR 2-3 even though there are no external links leading to the page. Now heres the kicker. One of the pages that was updated with PR3 was only created on December 16th and has no external links to it.
What I've got agrees with you Michael, around Mid-late October. Lot's of people are claiming much later - up until the end of December for example, which seems very unusual. Even more unusual when you consider that Matts blog didn't get any PR on posts around those dates. I can understand a tiny PR0 blog not getting cached quickly, but I'd expect Matt's to have enough authority to get indexed very fast.
What don't you buy? It's a fact. I'm starting to think though that there may have been a glitch in the update, that has resulted in internal pages either being 'given' (incorrect?) PR or the toolbar simply giving the wrong readings/guesstimations.
^^ True, Matt Cutts post uptil Oct 15-17 have PR but post afterwards don't.. So this is about right, but i am still worried about some of my heavily linked sites remaining PR0, but some have increased unexpectedly
Well it might have been a fact last export but from my experience something is different this time and im wondering if google is doing this update differently hence the seemingly rolling snapshot dates rather than a firm date etc.
No look at the time stamp we all posts almost at the same time ! I was refering to tMatts example of the Cutts blog.
Snapshot is the time that the pr is calc'd from.. BUT If my cached page is 7days old on say the 15th oct then the pr will be calc'd from the link at that time.. Thus then the pages linked to from that pages would then be say -7days out of date PR value.. e.g. 8th.. This would keep going.. on and on... so IMHO the snapshot would be imposiable to find.... The only way you could find it would be if google cached/indexed a page every day and follow the links from that page everyday and that had no external links.. With a new page created every day...
Folks I was trying to figure this out in another thread. Some info below. Note besides Matt's blog I've received info from some DP members who said they launched in December and they have PR. If you read the whole thread you'll see people mentioning that they launched in December and received PR I was waiting for the PR to spread more so maybe you'll find this interesting. Explaining algorithm updates and data refreshes December 23, 2006 @ 12:38 am Alexa Rank: 1,275 [show graph] Google Backlinks: ~66 Average PR: 5.8 | Max PR: 6 | Min PR: 0 Summary for www.mattcutts.com/blog/explaining-algorithm-updates-and-data-refreshe Interesting that it got its PR exported to the toolbar so late in the month.