Good to see people posting facts...that is an interesting read. I had remembered that about sKerry but not about Nancy P.
Ok, but back to the topic, yes, we do need more troops than...21,500 more! The other cowards (governments) are pulling out, so we need many many more.
the other countries are realizing that this war is not winnable so they are pulling out. So you are suggesting to send more American lives to front lines?
Would you pull out at this stage? Because the US are there now, it's not like they still have to go in, so what would you do, seriously?
No, pulling out is not an option anymore.. But, if they really want to fix it, they need to TALK and NEGOTIATE with the very people they hate (the so called terrorists). U.S can not stop them, can not win a war against them. Because when someone is willing to blow himself up, what are you going to do to him that would make him stop? The only way right now is negotiations and compromising.
Oh no, that evil Bush. That's why we are sending more troops. If it were about fire power we would have blown the entire place up. You cannot negociate with terrorists.
Thanks for your honest opinion. And thanks for admitting that we shouldn't pull out, although I don't know whether you would send more troops or not to at least protect the others. Obviously I don't agree with you. But I won't blow you up because of that. Someone else might. Do you really think it's possible to talk with them? Would you mind if we send you to do the talks? Anyway, seriously, I really think that talking to them would be impossible, unless you convert to their religion for a start. It would only help them buy time. And who is it you would talk to? Now this is an important point. Who is their chief? I believe they have many, some in the hiding and I don't think they would come out because if Bush doesn't kill them, someone else will, so it's pointless. Unless you could talk to Allah directly...
No, talking to them is very possible. First you need to realize one key fact: - It's the Iraqi people who are fighting back, not some minority. And they are mainly Sunnis. The reason for that is the fact that Iraq government is mainly Shi'a and they are giving enough power to Sunnis. Therefore, Sunnis are not backing down. They don't have military power so they use their suicide bombers. - Again, it is very possible to talk with the Sunnis, it only requires both sides to be willing to compromise and give up some of their interests.
So it's the Shi'ites that should talk to the Sunnis. What about the Curds? And anyway, the Sunnis gave so much shit to the Shi'ites under Saddam that it sounds hard to understand the Shi'ites wanting to compromise now. And I can't blame them. And if the use their suicide bombers it's because life for them isn't that important, and their enemies' life even less. Dividing the country would be a great solution, if Iran and Syria weren't there waiting to get in, and it's much easier in a divided country. No, the solution is to send the bloody terrorists back to Syria and Iran or a oneway journey to meet up with the 70 virgins...
its 72 virgins, and that is what suicide bombing is, other than cleansing the gene pool...one more thing...what if the suicide bomber is a woman? does she get 72 virgin men? Or is that just for men to get 72 virgin women? Sounds a bit biased to me.
Biased? towards men? but that's typical! And sure it's 72? Have they increased the minimum "wage" for martyrs? And poor girl, the one that gets 72 virgin men as a reward!
what is the 72 virgin thing? You have no idea what you are talking about.... First, a divided country would be a disaster. Because all the oil would be given to Kurds and Shi'as and the Sunnis would be left with nothing. The Iraqi's are not fighting to get 72 virgins (Grow up). They are fighting because American troops are in their land. Because someone has invaded their country. The bottom line is that Iraqi people did not, have not, and will not welcome foreign troops, especially after all the disasters that the troops have caused.
Don't martyrs get 72 virgins according to the Koran? And if they don't want the US there, then how come so many Iraqi's are fighting alongside the US troops?
I can't see it that wrong if the Curds get MOST of the oil, it's in their territory and the Sunnis have benefited of it for many many years under Saddam, their leader. I agree that it would be a disaster, but that's not the reason. And yes, nobody wants foreign troops on their land, that's understandable, but right now they do, oh yes they do! They would be slaughtered by the terrorists who would take over, even worse than Saddam. That's why pulling out is not an option and very few crazies want that... And yes, suicide bombers are promised that, whether they get it, I don't know and prob I will never know, because I am not going to be a martyr, not in that way at least...
They do get virgins (if one actually believes in all that crapola) for "fighting in the cause of Allah." Nima probably doesn't want to talk about it though. There are no virgins for digital jihad. Iraqis are being trained by and honorably fighting along side our troops. But those are not the fighters Nima is focused on. Nima's focus is on the terrorist fighters. The ones doing all the killing over there.
No virgins for digital jihad! That's a good one! Anyway, Nima is focusing on the ones that fight hiding among civilians, dressing in plain clothes, sending people to death, killing with no distinction and the will to kill anybody, just as long as they kill, because in their minds it's going to work if children are killed because some crappy Terrorist Supporters are going to blame the US because of that! They want to terrorise, and then maybe replace Saddam...very maybe! Not the ones that are fighting them, obviously...
Yeah imagine if it was Iraqis on American soil running (or should that be ruining? ) their country. Idiots like Mia, GTech and the rest of the crazy gang would certainly view it from a different perspective then.