When do you think Israel will bomb Iran's nuclear sites?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ST12, Dec 31, 2006.

  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #81
    You just sort of make up your facts as you go along? I like that!

    Did you still want to avoid these?

    Yeah, it's a shame muslim terrorists are killing everyone in Iraq. Just doing what the quran tells them to do :rolleyes:

    Some people actually want the US to pull out of Iraq so terrorists can take over. Can you believe that?
     
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  2. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #82
    And now we get the truth behind this terrorist supporter...he has to bring up Vietnam...its ok, we know you are still mad that sKerry lost in the last election, which would have made your nation the greatest terrorist nation in the world....so sad..let me get you a tissue.
     
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  3. Nima

    Nima Well-Known Member

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    #83
    Israel will never bomb Iran, at least not when they are sober...

    Israel lost a small war to Hezbollah, and without Untied States support (which is in BIG trouble in Iraq & Afghanistan) Israel, would never succeed in a war against Iran.

    Unless of course they (Israel) choose to use their nuclear bombs, which will result in the world not baby sitting them anymore, and without the world babysitting and funding Israel, it won't last long...
     
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  4. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #84
    I don't think they lost to hezbollah, the UN made them quit..which again proves the UN is a bunch of terrorist supporters...thank God Kofi is gone...
     
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  5. Nima

    Nima Well-Known Member

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    #85
    since when Israel has listened to UN?

    Israel lost their war. Their objective was to destroy Hezbollah. Not only Hezbollah got stronger but they got more supporters in Lebanon and in other Arab countries.

    This goes back to what I said in another post: Middle East war will not be won by fire power and until the west understands that, the war will keep going on. (or until all the oil is gone)
     
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  6. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    #86

    Sorry Nima to be frank with you.

    I honor truth and honesty. As far as know it was Lebanon who was asking just about everyone in the world to press Israel to stop the war. Hezbollah did some damage to Israel, but they took much, much harder hits from Israel.
    Israel was able to hit any target they wanted in Lebanon.
    Can you say the same for Hezbollah?
    Now:
    - Hezbollah won't be even able to get closer than 15Miles to the border.

    - What you're saying is just not true.

    I am not a war supporter by any means, but I believe Israel will hit Iran too. Many in the world believe that Iran is after making nukes - it's plain obvious for me there is no chance in the world for Israel to accept that.
     
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  7. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #87
    Hezbollah and Hamas kidnapped Israeli's, without Israel doing anything to them!!! And you are correct, they have backing in the Arab world, terrorist backing to be exact.
     
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  8. Nima

    Nima Well-Known Member

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    #88
    ST12,
    We have a different definition for winning for Israel. Israel's war was to destroy Hezbollah, capture or kill it's leaders, destroy their popularity, and find their captured soldier.

    They achieved none. Sure, they weakened Hezbollah's fire power, but that is the case in any war. However for the price they paid, they gained not even close to enough back...

    d16man,
    Don't be so shortsighted. Read some history. You are saying Israel didn't do anything to Hezbollah and Lebanon????? For starters, Google search term "Lebanon Israel" and see the history between them.
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #89
    d16man was right on target. hezbollah and hamas both started the war. Israel finished it for them. Just like every other time neighboring Arab countries have attacked Israel, they lost.

    hezbollah were cowards. They hid behind civilians, did not wear uniforms, blended in with the population and even hid behind the United Nations. Israel warned not only locations in Israel of incoming rockets, but also warned before hand, people in Lebanon of forthcoming attacks. While hezbollah was hiding behind women and children, the leader of hezbollah's terrorist group was hiding in the Iranian embassy.
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #90

    The problem isn't muslim terrorists, but jewish terrorists and liars like yourself who are demonizing muslims, spreading propaganda like you are doing in the forum, using the United States to achieve their zionist aims.
    Israel is the source of the problems in the Middle East if you ask me. And zionists like yourself as the ones who are pushing for a clash of civilization between Islamic countries and the West.
     
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    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #91
    yeah we know ... 9/11 is propaganda, the bombs in London, Madrid, Bali, etc. are all jewish propaganda, it's all the jews fault... Do us all a favor and go back to your terrorist and nazi friends.
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #92
    Yeah sure. I'll make sure to do that. And you go back to your islamophobic zionists bunch to continue to spread lies and hate of muslims.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #93
    What I want to know is how are the US and Israel "Zionist" regimes if we worship the same God? Doesn't that make Islam a "Zionist" regime also??
     
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    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #94
    interesting, so fighting islamic terrorists who kill innocent people in buses,trains and at their workplace makes you an islamophobic?
    Do you even know what zionism is?
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #95

    By the way, not that I agree with these attacks or condone them in anyway, but let's be frank:
    1) 9/11 happened in part because of the United States's blind support of Israel, an apartheid state as Jimmy Carter rightly pointed out who is involved in the genocide and ethnic cleansing of palestinians.
    2) The war in Iraq was pushed by Israel because it viewed Iraq and Saddam Hussein as enemies. All the hawks or neo-conservatists who pushed for the war share zionist views where the arab world has to submit to Israel.
    The Madrid and London attacks happened because frustated muslim youth saw the unprovoked attacks on Iraq and lost their minds by taking their revenge on innocent people.

    Yeah, so if you are really looking for the truth, all these attacks happened because of our dear friend Israel who continuously spies on the United States (do a google search to find out how many israeli spies were uncovered in the United States and Israel happens to be our "friend"), who influences US foreign policies to its advantage.

    The so-called "war of terror" is actually a proxy war by Israel against the Muslim World. When you have a simple-minded person in power like George W Bush (who btw believes God speaks to him, actually he is hearing zionist voices in his head), it becomes very easy to manipulate the sole super-power to its advantage.
     
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  16. Nima

    Nima Well-Known Member

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    #96
    There is no war on terror...

    EVERYTHING is about money and power. Don't ever forget that...
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #97
    What the West should be really fighting for, is to free itself of the strangehold that Israel and zionists have on them.

    As long as there is injustice, people will loose their minds and commit irrational acts as killing civilians which is in no way condone by Islam or in the Quran as the Zionists and muslim-haters pretend.
    One must look at the cause of this rage and these desperate acts. One must look at Israel, who is no better than the "islamic" terrorists that you are mentioning. Two of their soldiers get kidnapped, and they bombed, killed many civilians and destroyed an entire nation's infrastructure. Speaking of terrorism... let's talk for a moment of zionist terrorists.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #98
    keep pushing Israel and killing civilians and expect them to eventually fight back.

    This is the dumbest thing I see in our world today. OH boo hoo Israel needs to be destroyed they just keep defending themselves from HOW MANY COUNTRIES with HOW MANY PEOPLE keep attacking them????

    Oh ya, them evil zionist must die - straight from the kkk.

    How many palistians would die in a year if they stopped trying to kill people? and blowing themselves up?
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #99
    Who is planning our next war?

    By Patrick J. Buchanan

    01/09/07 " WorldNetDaily" -- -- As George Bush reflects on his legacy, an urgent question must be pressing in upon him each day.
    Will I leave here as the man who launched failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that cost thousands of U.S. dead, to no avail? Or can I yet enter history as the Churchillian statesman who used U.S. power to save America and Israel from the mortal threat of atomic weapons in the hands of the Iranian mullahs?

    Which legacy would Bush prefer? Or Cheney?

    As Americans await Bush's address announcing a "surge" of 20,000 to 30,000 U.S. troops to Iraq, we may be missing the larger picture. The War Party is turning its attention from Iraq – to Iran.

    Nor is it simply an analysis of the character of George Bush that causes one to so conclude.

    Tehran is now two weeks into a 60-day deadline to answer a Security Council resolution directing it to cease enriching uranium. While the sanctions are mild, the resolution passed unanimously and gives Bush the U.N. cover he used to wage war on Iraq. If Iran defies the United Nations, Bush will demand further sanctions. Up the escalator we go.

    Moreover, a second U.S. carrier battle group is heading for the Gulf. More interesting, the new CentCom commander, replacing Gen. John Abizaid, is no soldier, but Adm. William J. Fallon, commander in chief of U.S. forces in the Pacific. What Fallon does not know about securing streets, he does know about taking out targets from the air and keeping sea lanes open in a time of war.

    Bush may be sending signals, but the Israelis are preparing for war. The London Sunday Times reports that Israeli pilots have been making the 2,000-mile run to Gibraltar to train for strikes with bunker-busting nuclear bombs on Iran's heavy water plant at Arak, the uranium hexaflouride facility at Isfahan and the centrifuge cascade at Natanz.

    Israel angrily denies the report. But, on Dec. 30, retired Gen. Oded Tira, who headed up all Israeli artillery units, burst into print with this admonition:

    "As an American air strike in Iran is essential for our existence, we must help (Bush) pave the way by lobbying the Democratic Party (which is conducting itself foolishly) and U.S. newspaper editors. We need to do this in order to turn the Iranian issue to a bipartisan one and unrelated to the Iraq failure."

    "Bush lacks the political power to attack Iran," writes Tira. Thus, Israel and its U.S. lobbying arm "must turn to Hillary Clinton and other potential presidential candidates in the Democratic Party so that they publicly support immediate action by Bush against Iran."

    "The Americans must act," Tira concludes. "If they don't, we'll do it ourselves ... (and) we must immediately start preparing for an Iranian response to an attack."

    According to UPI editor-at-large Arnaud De Borchgrave, Tira's line tracks the New Year's Day message of Likud superhawk "Bibi" Netanyahu, the former prime minister.

    Said Netanyahu, Israel "must immediately launch an intense, international public relations front first and foremost on the U.S. The goal being to encourage President Bush to live up to specific pledges he would not allow Iran to arm itself with nuclear weapons. We must make clear to the (U.S.) government, the Congress and the American public that a nuclear Iran is a threat to the U.S. and the entire world, not only Israel."

    Israel's war, says Bibi, must be sold as America's war.

    We are thus forewarned. A propaganda campaign, using Israeli agents and their neocon auxiliaries and sympathizers, who stampeded us into war in Iraq, is being prepared to stampede us into war on Iran.

    We are to be convinced that Iran, with no air force or navy to speak of, an economy not 2 percent of ours, which has not started a single war since the revolution, 27 years ago, is about to give to terrorists, to use on us, a nuclear bomb it may be 10 years away from even being able to build.

    Will Congress be duped again into giving Bush a blank check for war? Or will this new Congress summon the courage to take the war option out of Bush's hands, to decide itself, for the nation, when, where and whether America should ever go to war against Iran?

    Every presidential candidate should be asked: Does President Bush have the authority to attack Iran without specific congressional authorization? And would you support giving him that authority?

    Needed today are courageous men and women of both parties who will introduce and pass a congressional resolution stating, "In the absence of a direct Iranian attack on U.S. forces or personnel, or an imminent threat of such an attack, President Bush has no authority to launch a pre-emptive strike or a preventive war on Iran."

    If we are going to war, let us do it constitutionally, for once, and not leave it up solely to George W. Bush and Brother Cheney.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #100
    Ablaye, at least comment about the copy/paste or you will find many won't bother to read it.

    BTW, this is an opinion peace, do you know what opinions are?

    And if a countries leader said that your little country will be destroyed in his lifetime AND he was making a nuclear missile, wouldn't you want to stop that?

    Or do the facts at hand not matter?

    I suppose you think those palestinian kids shows are right on track when they convince children to be suicidal bombers, err I mean martyrs?
     
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