More troops to Iraq...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Nima, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. #1
    How dare Bush is sending more troops to Iraq?

    Can't this guy realize that winning this war is not about fire power?

    For him to win this war there is only one way: United States needs to have negotiations with the Sunnis, Shia's, and Kurds. We call them terrorist here while we are the ones who took their land and created a situation worse than Saddam...
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    So you honestly think that if we ask for a truce it will stop?? These are extremist who will do nothing until the US is overrun with muslims. Send more troops in my opinion, 20,000 isn't enough. They are the ones who quote the Koran "Death to the Infidels!!!"
     
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    uca Well-Known Member

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    20,000 is ridiculous!

    200,000 maybe could help, but not a tenth!

    I hope that the other measures are going to be somewhat effective because a few more soldiers ain't gonna help at all.

    Liberating Baghdad only isn't enough!
     
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  4. Nima

    Nima Well-Known Member

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    d16man,

    Imagine, Iraqi troops came here to overthrow Bush, killed members of your family, tortured your father, and raped your neighbors daughter and most importantly took over your country?

    What are you going to do? hopefully fight till death for your country and your values...

    That is what IRAQIs (not terrorists) are doing over there. Their values might be different than yours and that is exactly why the only way to finish this war is with negotiations.

    U.S is not backing down neither are they. And until then, this will continue.

    U.S is not even willing to talk to Syria or Iran, who have great influence in Iraq (more than U.S does itself).
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    And hezbollah and hamas didn't start the conflict with israel this past summer...You sound like a terrorist appeaser..the people the US is fighting are from Iran and Syria...they are not the good natured loyal Iraqis...remember we are fighting on the side of the Iraqi army, not against them. Iran and Syria have both proven that they harbor terrorists and support any and all action against anything the US has done...and they do it all in the name of Islam...
     
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    Unlike most of us Bush cannot see that this phony war on terror is unwinnable, and because of that thousands more people will die.

    It's like throwing good money after bad, but along with the money he's also throwing people in too, it's a disaster and will remain a disaster. :mad:
     
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    uca Well-Known Member

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    Come on, most Iraqis want freedom and are happy with what the US and allies are doing, so happy that they don't want them to leave!

    A few iraqis, are fighting with a great will to kill anyone they can, supported by many foreigners, most of which from Syria and Iran.

    So the only good reason to get out of Iraq would be to go afetr, mmmmm, I would say Syria first, so it could be a warning for Iran also, then Iran, because they wouldn't understand the warning...

    We need more unmanned aeroplanes and start developing robot soldiers, and send them.

    There would be less opposition in the US, UK and wherever, and the mission would be successfully accomplished!

    Instead, we have to fight 2 enemies, actually 4:

    terrorists
    liberals (and democrats when they think it's in their interest)
    Iran, Syria and Al-Qaeda
    A religion, a culture, ignorant people, a history, poverty
     
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    Nima Well-Known Member

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    No one is talking about Palestine right now, neither am I saying their actions are right or wrong...

    What I am saying is that the current middle east problem will not be solved with guns.

    Iran and Syria are protecting their ass just like U.S wants to protect his. Why do you think it's ok for U.S to kill people, support coupes around the world, have secret prisons, but its not ok for others to do the same...

    What you need to realize is that ALL these countries (including Iran, Syria, U.K, U.S, Germany)... are in these wars and conflicts for their own interest and they don't give a shit about other people.

    Why is no one giving crap about the genocides taking place in Africa? maybe because there is no oil to steal!!

    Again, the point is not which country is doing best for Iraqis, because none are. What I am saying is that the only way for this conflict to end is to have direct talks between enemies.
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Bad news for terrorists in Iraq. Good news for Iraqis who are fed up with them. Bad news for those who want the US to pull out so terrorists can take over.
     
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    Nima Well-Known Member

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    What is your source for that? Fox news or CNN?

    My friend, I can tell you for sure that is not the case. Iraq was much better off when Saddam was in power.

    Take this for example: Based on a U.N estimation, one out of every 8 Iraqis have fled the country. That is because there is no good water, no electricity, no security, no ANYTHING in that country right now...

    Iraq is a disaster, don't let media fool you. Read blogs from Iraqis themselves.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Fallujah was. So too, will Baghdad.

    Tell your buds to stop blowing shit up.

    Boo America for helping, boo America for not helping enough. Always "boo America."

    Incorrect. Terrorists blowing shit and people up in Iraq daily, while the US is trying to stop such. And do so quite often.

    Pulling out of Iraq would make it ten times worse for Iraq. Show me one terrorist in Iraq that has done any good for Iraq.
     
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    We do give a crap, we are killing all the islamic terrorists who tried to overrun Somalia...in the process they are taking back their country. Good for them, even better for our C130 gunships...
     
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    #13
    These idiots only watch FOX and CNN etc. and hang off of every word Bush says, it is clearly a major disaster and putting more troops and money in will not make any difference at all, except more deaths.

    I would love to see GTech and Mia and their chums on that 21,500 list, they would soon shit themselves that is for sure. ;)
     
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    uca Well-Known Member

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    If you want to know better than the media, go there!

    If you want to know better than blogs, go there!

    for everyone of those Iraqis that leave, there are foreigners going on, only, they are terrorists, so security goes down the drains.

    When Saddam was in power, I don't remember many moving to Iraq!

    And Iraqis have to pull their shit together, instead of waiting for others to take care of them!

    But seriously, could there have been something worse than Saddam? Except for those from Tikrit, of course.

    No matter how small, it's a step forward, towards democracy, tough, they don't even know what it is, even worse than in Russia where many don't understand capitalism and freedom yet, it takes time, and unfortunately lives.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Isn't it ironic that your position of defeat and retreat in Iraq most resembles the media's position?

    I find it awkward that you blame those that don't want the US to pull out so terrorists can take over, for watching the media, when the MEDIA'S sole purpose is to drive home the very opinion you hold.
     
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    Nima Well-Known Member

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    I can't believe you just said that.

    I truly hope you are a high school (or elementary school) kid that doesn't know anything about life. Hopefully you will grow up sooner or later.

    Seems like you consider Fallujah a success, a winning, that should be celebrated every year. I don't and I am scared of the same thing happening again...

    I won't post these pictures in the post as they are too graphic. But here is something for your to remember: (just imagine those were your loved ones)...

    http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/americas/us/war_culture.html


    Kiddo, learn that hate and killing has never solved hatred.

    Oh by the way, How was it that Bush fooled everyone into going to Iraq?
     
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    tell that to the ?6 million? people he killed!!

    "his own" people mind you
     
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    Mate it's a fucking disaster, it's unwinnable. As I have said before, time for the US to get them troops out of the place instead of sending more in.

    Wake up to reality mate!
     
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    uca Well-Known Member

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    Many lives are saved everyday, it looks like some ignore that....
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Amen! BTW, nice to see you, UCA. Been a long time. Welcome back :)

    That's exactly what Bryan and Michelle are doing. A very interesting story with more to come!
     
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