Why is Pork considered 'unclean' ...?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by mcfox, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. northpointaiki

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    #21
    That's correct, buddy.
     
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    #22
    Headhunters think eating human meat is fit for consumption, so what's your point here man?

    That you are right and God is wrong, or science is wrong?

    Can you prove the swine you eat has no worms since it is raised in a "different modern way" :confused:
     
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    #23
    Anthony, I have no interest in diving into another useless discussion with you, since all you do is rant based on zero, and argue for the pleasure of adding smilies or their variants.

    Everyone else, yes, modern rearing and breeding practices have made pork consumption as safe as any other meat.
     
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    #24
    Because you are on the wrong side of the issue man, you have no argument and you know it, later!
     
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  5. mcfox

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    #25
    Chill out, Anthony. ;)

    Modern farming techniques - rearing through to slaughter - mean that pigs are under constant observation from birth. Any experienced rearer can spot a problem from a hundred paces away. Not to mention that pigs are inspected both ante-mortem and post-mortem for any signs of disease by qualified inspectors.
     
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    #26

    You both are promoting falsehoods to the world, I never do that in spite of my relationship with someone McFox, you may be my friend, but if you are publishing lies, my responsibility is to counter that here.
     
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  7. northpointaiki

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    #27
    "Lies"
    "Friends" "not friends"

    -I just feel sorry for you, AC - in your world, it seems, things are so easily categorized into moral absolutes. As someone whose profession is about the very subject you post so much, and know so painfully little, all I can do is offer my sympathies to you.
     
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    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #28

    i read that article..there is no surprise, aren't all animal farm's the same.
     
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    #29
    Talk about blatant propaganda, you must think idiotic posts give you credibility here man!

    Grow up man, this is not your show, it is a discussion forum that you offer little fact to, just ridiculous personal opinions that are false.

    Welcome to the big leagues and the big time, if you can't hit the fastball sit on the bench man!
     
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    #30
    Yes, yes, to be sure, AC.
     
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    #31
    Ah yes, the dark side of intensive farming.

    I'm not attempting deliberate misrepresentation, Anthony, only sharing my own experience from what I personally know of animal husbandry.

    {edit - ah, banned again, AC. See you when you get back :) }
     
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    #32
    Christians have a different perspective of unclean foods...Take a look at Mark 7:19, where Jesus declares all foods clean. Also, see Acts 10, starting with the 9th verse. God declares foods that have previously been unclean to now be clean(the story of Peter and the sheet coming down from heaven). Jews and Muslims however, don't recognize this.
     
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    #33
    Anthony is no longer with us, again.

    There is so much that is wrong with the corporate husbandry industry. AC's link is not news...which is why as a chef I do not use any sources except those I know. Berkshire is a breed apart, and the manner in which it is raised and slaughtered is concomitantly quite different; I know the ranchers I deal with. It matters to me not only what I eat and serve, but how the animal lived, and how it died. If I could preach anything, it would be to encourage us all to operate this way.
     
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    #34
    What happened did Anthony eat the pork and get banned again as the banned sign has come up on his profile

    I know there is a ban on Pork in Islam maybe the pork ban is spreading ;)
     
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    #35
    Just troll around these forums, you will see why he is banned... back to topic... Do you find it interesting that the french are now catering to Islam, rather than the other way around...I for one believe in the loving God, and if I was poor and roaming the streets, I think God would find it ok that I ate some pork if I had to. If God loves us, then why would God want us to suffer for His sake? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
     
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    #36
    Most pork produced today no longer has the problem of the various potentially deadly parasites. This is due to careful raising and breeding of these animals. However various wild strains of these animals -do- have this problem. If you ever kill a wild boar and intend to eat it, be darned sure you cook it REAL good.

    The danger comes with the fact that these parasites can spread. So if a domesticated pig comes in contact with a wild boar, it is possible it could have the parasites, and then parasites can spread through their particular group, which is why commercial pork is generally safe, but it's still an added measure of safety to cook the pork well.

    Similar to how the VAST majority of raw eggs are safe, to the point that most of us will never even see a single egg that has been contaminated. However it is still a good idea, for safety's sake, to cook all eggs we use, or to use powdered or pasteurized eggs for our raw egg needs.

    The reason that pork is unclean when it comes to Judaism has already been covered.
     
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    #37
    funny! , So you see pig, sheep etc as food , not animals?
     
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    #39
    Well, put, Josh. I agree with you on all points. As a chef, I know each rancher I deal with, and know the practices they undertake, but in the normal matter of course, as consumers, we depend on literature and regulations to provide us the information to make the guesses we do. The pork industry as a whole is not what it was decades ago; but I suppose the potential exists, as you eloquently indicate.

    Bottom line, for me, as a consumer and a chef - know your source, if able. Pay for quality, if able.
     
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    #40
    Anthony was Anthony. Again.
     
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