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Not seeing changes for any of these and a few more "new" sites I have.
No backlinks (which ain't accurate) and no PR.

I guess I'm going to be last on the update list.

 

You've only got around 6 different domains linking to the site. The vast majority of your backlinks (in Yahoo) are made up of internal links.

Also, all the pages that were linking to the domain had 0PR, so in all probability there just isn't anough Pagerank being directed to you site for it to register any of it's own.

On the plus site you have almost 600 pages indexed by Google, so it's certainly not ignoring you. I'd also suggest that with a site of that size that you add some deep links, it looks a lot more natural than having 100% of your links pointing at the homepage.

 

You would think, though, that 600 indexed pages and some external linkage (although not much) would, at least, be good enough to get on the board with PR1. 600 indexed pages is nothing to shake a stick at.

 

I am hoping to see a PR4 site of mine go up to PR5 this time, but I see no movement on any datacenters as yet.

 

My toolbar has been officially updated from a PR0 to PR4.

 

It depends, the number of indexed pages don't contribute to PR. PR is entirely derived from the PR of the incoming links and how many external links that they have on their pages.

If you have a bunch of PR0 pages that link to you that also link to 50 other sites, then they'll be passing a minute fraction of a PR point.

Getting links from PR0 pages isn't a bad thing though, I count relevancy far far above the PR of the page, it's rankings that matter to me and not a green bar.

 

Are you talking about my Directory? until this week I had 28 links (using the link:<website> search string) in google, most with at least PR4. I don't know why all the backlinks disappeared when doing a link: search? But it has really only just happened.... I'm hoping at some point they will reappear...

Doing a search for techtoplist.com in googlle returns 559 hits. Using the site:<website> search string it says I have 762 pages indexed.

Probably in Yahoo this would be correct, but not in Google as explained above.

Yes, good point. I am planning to add some deep links to the site.

I have other websites though which have not moved either. You would have thought that at least one of them would have moved

 

My PR toolbar has updated already. I'm seeing PR3 on seopinoy.com but nothing happens on some of my sites. I think this is the real update.

 

Sorry, I was looking at a different site. When were your links added?

 

PR is largely derived from external links, but not entirely.
I have a domain with PR3 right now.
No Google backlinks. (Until it gets updated)
111 Yahoo backlinks. (All obtained AFTER the last PR update)

And, it's not the first time I've had a domain with PR and no backlinks.
On page SEO WILL get you some PR and that PR can be passed to your inner pages.


I agree with you about the SERPS being far more important than the "green bar". PR is great for selling link space, but SERPS get you traffic.

 

One thing I noticed is my inner page has no PR which is very unusual during PR update right? Anyone noticed the same instances?

 

PR is entirely derived from external links. Internal links can direct PR around a site or focus it to specific pages, but it's impossible to create PR.

So it does have backlinks? Just because Google doesn't show them doesn't mean they don't know about them.

 

It's had links for about 7 motnhs, hence it's currently PR2. It changed hosts and design about 3 months ago and since then I have been doing a lot more link building (both paid and free). it's current predicted PR is 5.

 

None of my sites have any movement with them yet, so for those of you who think they have been bypassed or are not going to see any changes, just hold on as Google isn't done yet. It will probably take several more days for everything to kick in, perhaps a week or more before the dust settles.

 

I used to believe that too. But now I know different. I've seen it.

I think you missed the point on my statement. I have a PR3 on that domain. I've had a PR3 since September 2006. In September 2006, that domain had NO BACKLINKS ANYWHERE (including Yahoo). I was given a PR3 at the last toolbar update when I had zero backlinks. And, it's not the first time that has happened to me, either.

PR is definitely obtained through backlinks, no question. But, PR is not ENTIRELY derived from backlinks or a domain without backlinks couldn't possibly get any PR. And, as I've stated above, I know from experience that it is possible to get PR without backlinks.

 

Never ever believe in PR prediction because it's totally inaccurate.

 

You can probably discount any of the linkbuilding you've been doing over the past three months. PR updates are a PR snapshot taken from at least two-three months ago.

The design and ownership changes shouldn't have made a difference.

 

here comes the 1000th post hehe

 

Sorry, but there must have been links to the site, it's impossible to have PR with literally 0 backlinks.

If you had no backlinks at all, how did Google find the domain to assign PR to it?

 

No changes here. We have to wait a bit longer i guess...