Shoemoney using Adwords CPM with Success?

Discussion in 'Google AdWords' started by Learner45, Jan 7, 2007.

  1. #1
    In Shoemoney's $10K ppc experiment I saw Shoe used Adwords CPM site targeting and did great with it. Here's the excerpt:

    "CPM Targeting for the win… Here is a dirty secret. CPM target sites where the only good content is the AdSense ad. Here is the deal… with AdSense lets say it costs you 6$ to be #1 for Verizon Ringtones for search results… but ohh wait, what is this??Why it’s the #1 ORGANIC Google result for the phrase “Verizon Ringtones” and it only costs me 10$ CPM (cost per 1,000 impressions or roughly 1 cent per impression). Since this ad is really the only relevant content it converts REALLY WELL."
    http://www.shoemoney.com/2006/04/13/10k-ppc-experiemnt-part2/

    I read up on Adwords and found that CPM ads compete with the regular content ads based on eCPC. I don't know how Shoe could get ahead of the competitors bidding on ringtones in the content network. It would seem you would need a much higher CPM to out bid the content adds. So whats the secret to CPM Adwords advertising to get ahead of all the contextual bidders?
     
    Learner45, Jan 7, 2007 IP
  2. ghoti

    ghoti Peon

    Messages:
    139
    Likes Received:
    4
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #2
    Social engineering, maybe? Shoe made a reference to it at the top of his post.
     
    ghoti, Jan 8, 2007 IP
  3. GuyFromChicago

    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

    Messages:
    6,728
    Likes Received:
    529
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #3
    There's no secret. Bid more.
     
    GuyFromChicago, Jan 8, 2007 IP
  4. ghoti

    ghoti Peon

    Messages:
    139
    Likes Received:
    4
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #4
    But does a $10 CPM site-targeted ad really beat a $6 CPC keyword ad? According to what Learner45 quoted, it does...but that seems illogical.
     
    ghoti, Jan 8, 2007 IP
  5. GuyFromChicago

    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

    Messages:
    6,728
    Likes Received:
    529
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #5
    "6$ to be #1 for Verizon Ringtones for search results"

    Apples and oranges. The $6 is for the search results, not the content network. You can't run CPM ads on Google's search results.
     
    GuyFromChicago, Jan 8, 2007 IP
  6. ghoti

    ghoti Peon

    Messages:
    139
    Likes Received:
    4
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #6
    Oops... overlooked that. Good point. :)
     
    ghoti, Jan 8, 2007 IP