Professor: Muslim men can't control themselves, women must adapt

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  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #141
    That's pretty dishonest. But, we are just infidels and lying to infidels is acceptable because in islam, we are of a lower class. Right, NK? ;)
     
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    nokiaking Peon

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    #142
    The quran is abrogated?!!! What do you regard the bible as?- the true word of God?!

    That was why yesterday i was saying the true meaning of the Quran can only be found in Arabic- Pick up any Arabic quran, they will all be the same, exactly the same as they were when it was first revealed to muhammed. Shame the same can not be said for these english translations.

    No i speak to everyone:)
     
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    nokiaking Peon

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    #143
    By the way that doesn't solve the problem!!

    I have only had 10 posts recently- have to wait until 7 days then i am allowed to post links- So sorry guys no links today!!!
     
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    #144

    I wouldn't say summarising a quote is dishonest:rolleyes:
    No, not really, lying is not acceptable in Islam:rolleyes:
     
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  5. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #145
    One of these days a Muslim is going to come on these forums and be 100% honest with us and we will have a better view of Islam. Menj comes to mind. But he was creepy.

    It may be a better of view of Islam like a better view of a junkyard but it will be a better view.

    Of course you wouldn't say that. What do you call editing the verse after I read the full version you originally posted and then acting shocked that I call you on it?
     
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    #146

    When did i answer- "because i say so"?

    You have demonstrated that when facts are given which disapprove something which you said, you refuse to talk any furthur about it point blank, Also you have demonstrated that other views are pointless when faced with yours:rolleyes:

    By the way ** UNABLE TO PROVIDE SOURCES**:D
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #147
    Right, so those muslims who only read/write English don't know the true meaning of the quran and therefore are not real muslims :rolleyes:

    Abrogation has everything to do with it. That's why I, unlike you, provided a source. It was previously discussed here as well. mo's interpretation of "allah" changed many times. Where you wish to point out verses from the early days (the time frame is important), sura 9 abrogates those verses as it was one of the last suras offered by mo before his "tomb was filled."

    Denial.
     
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    #148
    If only these 100% muslims had 100% Christians to speak with:rolleyes:

    Not those that even when provided with facts refuse to believe it!

    Those who refuse to see something from other peoples view, will not see it regardless of how hard they try.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #149
    paraphrase. you have no sources. you assert that something is true because you say so. repeatedly.

    You have no sources or facts. You only offer your word and denial, which has no credibility.
     
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    #150


    Prime Example- Not once have i said that:) ! Its all in your mind GTech!

    And for the last time i can't provide sources!
    Not denial but Acceptance
     
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    #151
    I keep asking him for verses from the Koran to back up his views. Apparently all we're going to get is santized versions. I don't think Allah would be too pleased that NokiaKing is removing words from Allah's mouth.

    Like Brujj said, Islam is whatever you want to believe it is.
     
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    #152
    Oh so you summarised my point of view- Hang on a minute isn't that against the rules? We can't summarise quotes remember they have to be quoted word for word;)
     
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    #153
    An edited quote and its the end of the world in Gtech and KalvinB land:D
     
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    #154
    This goes to show that there will never be an end to what Muslims will expect from the rest of the world to cater to them. Unbelievable! I will just break into you guys' houses and say hey, I saw a nice rolex on the table, it's your fault for tempting me. I am the real victim here.
     
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    #155
    Generally when you summize you maintain all the key points.

    But, whatever keeps you thinking you're not going to hell for removing words from the Koran.
     
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    #156
    How exactly does it show that?
    I edited a quote, the meaning from the quote was still there in black and white.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #157
    Like most, I don't think he's going to provide them. Even the apologist translation, the ALI translation, notes beating women. This is a version translated with the western audience in mind. All other versions note the same, but not so watered down.

    We've sourced them all. Yet the only source he has is "because I say so."

    On a scale of 1 to 72 virgins, I'd say he's holding strong at .05 virgins.
     
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    #158
    I've heard stories of burglars injuring themselves and then suing the homeowner. I don't know if they won but they've tried.
     
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    #159
    Oh am i going to go to hell now? Did allah tell you that or was it Jesus the God

    I summarised and maintained all the key points, you are just refusing to see it that way-baisically murder is not allowed:)
    You don't want to keep debating with me thus you go off at a tangent to the argument and make a fuss about the quote. :rolleyes:
     
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    #160


    How mature, make personal attacks now!
     
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