Anyone living or working in France: I and my family intend on moving to Paris next year, where I will be attending a professional school. To fund it, in part, both my wife and I will need to find work. I will be able to work 1/2 time as a student, and my wife holds Estonian citizenship, but this really does nothing in terms of EU right-to-work status. Both of us are bilingual (myself more than her), and experienced in the hotel and restaurant trade. Anyone who has some concrete ideas on obtaining work in Paris, we could use your input - many thanks.
Finding a job is France became somehw hard at the moment, anyway if you are looking for some hotel/restaurant jobs, it is easier but traditionnaly the hiring is done through a direct visit to the place where you want to work. In which kind of professional school will you be ?
Sylvain - thank you. This is the sector where we both (my wife and I) will begin our search. I will be applying to L’Ecole Supérieure de Cuisine Française (Ferrandi).
Hi, did you ask for the formalities at the French ambassy in Estony ? (or Estonia, I don't know exactly) Visit this site http://www.ciup.fr/ it's the "cité internationale universitaire de Paris" they supply rooms, advices, etc. for foreigner students
Hi, Carticasi - Unfortunately, France does not have a reflexive relationship with Estonia (actually, with any of the "new" EU states). So, Estonian citizens are treated like non-EU citizens when it comes to the carte du sejour, etc. The school is a Ferrandi school, located in Paris, in the Quartier Latin (Rue Abbé Gregoire). Yep, 300K would be just a bit far nightly! Edit: Sorry, I posted before your edit. Thank you for the Cité Universitaire thought - I had not thought of that, believing the CU solely to be for single students...I will do some research on accomodations for families...Merçi!
You have answerred too rapidly ! I have just corrected my message (my first reading was wrong, I'm sorry) I have just changed it just one minute ago
Hahah - this is funny, we are both posting faster than edits...(please see my edit responding to yours). Thanks again, Carticasi.
hi, you can try gumtree.com for work, but afaik paris has a pretty high unemployment rate. and yes, you already have to mortage your house for a 1week stay in a paris hotel, rent must be very high. not sure if a cheap apartment in the problem areas of paris is an option for you.
Hi, Falcon - thanks. However, looking at Gumtree, it didn't seem that Paris is among the cities listed. Nice resource, though. There are areas I am looking at more than others. I couldn't care less about my own safety, but I am concerned that my wife and boy live in a peaceful area. How are you defining "problem" areas?
Hi again northpointaiki, When you come in France, the best for you is living in the suburbs (30, 40 kms from Paris) don't worry, there are efficient transports and you will pay cheaper for your flat. Because Paris is a very expensive town. Maybe you should contact your school and above all your ambassy, if you find a nice guy there (it sometimes arrives with ambassies or consulates and it's his job !), he will search for you a town where there are social flats. ambassy's phone number 00 33 1 56 62 22 00 fax number 00 33 1 49 52 05 65 Good luck
I did not completely agree with this, If you live in the far suburbs of Paris, your flat is indeed cheaper, but the cost of the transportation become higher and if you want efficient transportation you anyway need to be in some (less that paris but still a little bit) expenseive suburb. For me the best thing is to live in the very close suburbs of paris, you will pay less than paris for the flat, but more than far suburbs, but the price of transportation will be exactly the same than if you were in paris (what we call 'transportation zone 1-2'). For example, I lived in two flat in the suburbs of Paris, the first one is a 1 bedroom flat 5km away from paris (in the luxury suburbs), the cost for rent this kind of flat is 600 euros a month, and the transportation (train to paris in 10 mn) is around 70 euros a month), The one where I live is 800m from paris, it's a 3 bedrooms flat, the rent cost should be around 1000 euros a month, and for 52 euros I can go everywhere in zone1-2 (meaning paris and very close suburbs) and the metro is 2mn walk from the flat. For your information, the flat where I live cost something like 1500 a month if you make the 1km to be in Paris. If you go 30 or more km from Paris, a 1 bedroom will be 450, a 3 bedroom 800-900 and the price of transportation will be around 120 euros at least).
Hi, if I read your first option : 600 + 70 = 670 : the second one : 800 + 52 = 852 the theard one : 450 + 120 = 570 and remember than if they work, the firm which employees them will pay part of the transportation card. see the web site http://www.ratp.fr/ (it's Paris transportation authority) and this one : http://www.imagine-r.com/ (it's for young people less than 26 years old and students)
No, the firm is not obligated to pay for the transportation card, basically most of big firms do it, bu not all. Image-r is the solution but as you said they need to be less than 26. And you're right the third option is cheaper, but the time of transportation to the center of paris will be at least 1 hour, and it's a lot ! I saw somebody mentionning the international student city, maybe it's the better solution, they have rooms for couple, which is a big plus... And it's in paris.
Salut Sylvain, In fact for transportation card look there : http://www.juritravail.com/Trajet-r...avail/salaire/salaire-obligation/pack-salaire It's the law ! Look Northpoint, it's the translation of the french text : "If the company in which you work locates in the Paris area (it means Paris and the suburbs), the law forces your employer to deal with to a total value of 50% the price of the titles of subscriptions which you take out for your displacements carried out by means of public transport travellers between your usual residence and your place of work." It's an automatic translation by google but everybody can understand it, I think. Of course it needs time to go from house to the job place, like maybe 70% people who live in this area... I think in london or tokyo it's worse !
The law apply only if you live in the 'carte orange' zones, and if you are a full time worker, otherwise it is proportional to the number of hours you spend at work. Moreover it does not apply on imagine-r if you are at the same time a student. By the way, there is a huge difference between what the law said and what is done in practice, specially in the "restauration" sector. If you get paid completely officially you are already lucky... And a question for the guy that open the thread : can you work full time as a foreign student in france ?
Merçi, tous les deux. The information above is really helpful, and I am grateful. Sylvain, no, I am limited to half-time work, currently, 17.5 hours weekly. My wife seeks to work full time, and this is what we are concentrating on - her ability to find work.