Content period. The site is newer and is not a old domain(old domains have no value unless indexed for a long period of time). I just write long informational articles which usually get linked to by atleast 2-3 webmasters overnight. My site has people who come to learn and those who come for content. the content seekers(the honest ones) link to my new articles. It works well for me..
I have to agree on this one ... On a lighter note excuse me but I am still a learner and this is just an opinion I think sup hell has to do more with tags and the other stuff (affiliate stuff ) that may be in your headers footers and sidebars. Even great content gets sunk. I am still messing around with a few thing and this is my stance.
well, i had this feeling about the relationship between unique meta tags and supplementals about 3-4 months back which was recently confirmed by that google lady in an interview. So the sites whose tags were properly written havent gone supplemental, and the rest of them have taken a hit. Don't know how long would it take for the affected sites to come out from supp index, but i am an optimistic guy...
I would worry very little about supplemental results, and strive to make any pages not in supplemental, the best they can be. Next concern would be how to drive traffic to my site(s) After that how to earn revenues from the traffic coming to my site. After repeating the last two steps several hundred times.... I might worry about the supplementals.. Nah I was kidding about worrying about the supps....
Affiliate sites can go supplemental but then they can get indexed as well. Sites with low content or if the content versus links(outbound or insite links) ratio is low will likely go supplemental. Any site which has some good links will get out or stay out. Whichever is needed. BTW I have nothing wrong with you putting your opinion out. That is what a forum is for. Creating a seo site at this point, now I would have a problem with that.
Thanks man..Great post which now has me wondering about other questions So a site wide nav is ok which I figured But I have seen one of my arcade sites go supp, I am assuming this is because all the content is on a million other arcades.... Now, I am asking this question to a lot of people on several forums and you seem very knowledgeable so I will ask you What word count do you think the engines would consider " meaty " and keep you out of the supp's if the content was all unique? Also - If each original article or page had just one affiliate link in the page would that be ok? Please let me know what you think P.s. rep added great post Joe
Hi Joe Thank you for the compliment. As I was thinking on this a bit more Google tells webmasters to build websites with clear navigation, so users can find their way to all of your pages, in fact they prefer websites offers users sitemaps. So navigation menus are expected on most pages. I have an arcade site which has over 1300 pages. Each and every page is almost an exact duplicate other than the game played in the middle of each of the pages and the index page. You are also right in that our arcades are but one in many. There is absolutely no need for Google or any other search engine to carry all these pages on the main document returning servers..... As far as content 300 to 750 words per page is found to be a good balance. Search spiders will only retrieve so much data from the page so anything over 700 or 750 may not be stored and as such its better to break long pages into two or three pages. As for the 300 words, with Google, websites and webpages to the same extent, are themed or have an individual topic. In order to explain the issues related to the topic there would be a minimum amount need to impart ones thoughts or to inform the user what the page is about and what action you want the user to take. Yes one or two affiliate links would be fine. If you want to be extra cautious add a "no rel" and / or "no follow" tag, this tells the search engine the link is of no value yet allows the user to funnel through your sales process with the presale page. Hope this helps Peace
Don't throw rocks from glass houses, my friend. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=168254 "Also is it me or are my site title both in purple in this pic??? does google know I own those sites when I do a search?? I never understood this part of Google.."
omfg that is hilarious!!! Had I been drinking milk when I read that, I guarantee it woulda gone out my nose. Damn that's classic! Thx MrX. -Michael
Wow my own little stalker......I am so not worthy...ohhh two stalkers I forgot mv has a hardon for me too (Blech) Yes I did forget something in my years...I am not as perfect as you MrX...ohh and that really has little to nothing to do with SEO. right mikey???? Your little attempt above to make me look bad??? shows me you are reading what I post......this makes one of us much more interesting to the other.... Since I am not reading your past posts, one of us is also not very interested in anything the other has to say. Have a better life....
Oh, no, you did not forget something, you admitted that you were clueless as to what a visited link looked like. I mean, christ, for a supposed webmaster on a forum like this, that's kind of like a kid in high school accidentally letting slip he's a virgin to a bunch of seniors. Btw, you are kind of lame with your comebacks... you come off sounding better when you don't reply, just so you know. That's not an insult (not meant that way anyways), just saying. -Michael
Right you are the almighty god You never make a mistake nor error in a post. Again you're being anal mike and it worries people.... good luck ..... there is a reason I don't reply to ignorant people I have to question myself as to why I now chose to
Ok, I promise, I will right after this... promise... Dude, my suggestion on not trying to make comebacks was because you always follow the same pattern, making up personal digs at people that don't really have any basis in anything being discussed now or in the past, and eventually degenerating into sounding like Michael Richards responding to a heckler. You did not "make a mistake". Making a mistake is pulling into Burger King's drive thru and ordering a Big Mac. You honestly had no clue, like you were some AOLer with their first computer, what you were looking at. And when I'm wrong, I at least tend to admit it and get through the embarrassment of being wrong, rather than cling to some false hope of saving face and making it look worse. /back on topic... Duplicate content will not get you to be supplemental. Duplicate content will get you buried beneath the "Similar results" link. Supplemental can always be overcome with links. -Michael
Sure - good content ( + lots of regular visitors) > gets deeplinks > gets more SE love > gets more visitors > gets more links etc. This is a clear case of the rich get richer. Though of course creating content that gets links quickly is not a trivial thing at all. I would guess it's webmaster related content.
as far as i know how to get out of this supplemental pages would be different meta tags as people already mentioned above. Get Deep linking (links pointing to your inner pages of site) from trustred site and also get your site listed at business.com , yahoo dir, http://joeant.com/ http://gimpsy.com/ which is ofcourse costly affair but if that site is your main business. I have seen people buying lot of links at simple or typical dirs, those links will penalise your site by google ofcourse and is waste of money n time.
right cool, anyway lets keep it on topic and I don't care about my blog, I'm not really trying to promote it and I'm using it more as a notepad than a blog to be honest, and I'm not trying to prove to be the bigger and better SEO-er so can people please get off there little cloud so we can put some thoughts together and find out what the hell Google is doing to quite a lot of sites anyway, back to the point of me making this thread I have been looking through my stats and have found that Google does visit the supplemental pages quite often (visits X amount of supplemental pages everyday) but still no hope for them and they were all last cached between late Nov to mid Dec So I'm not sure what's up with Google but it's certainly broke, perhaps Google is full!?
Google runs on hundreds of thousands of servers—by one estimate, in excess of 450,000. I am going to go out on a limb here and say definitely that Google is not full. A quote from Matt C GooglePuppet You can worry about supplementals for years to be honest, or you can drive traffic and sales....the choice of course is yours. my two cents...
If only you knew me well enough to have an iota of who I am as a person then you would have a clue that I do not feel embarrassed by my mistakes ....... You may have this problem yourself but that does not concern me. As for resorting to insults it is you who gives them out freely Now when you try to act holier than thou and call me on what you yourself did first then yes I guess calling you ignorant seems to be an insult..... In my book its the truth.... When you strike first 100% of the time I will strike back.... However unlike yourself I do not insult people first.... Ohhh and the virgin in high school slap was used by yourself once already Your material is stale and since you seem to have a penchant for virgins and high school, I am led to believe it is actually yourself who has the inability to perform and may very well still be a virgin.... We're done now DUDE Try to stalk someone worth stalking sheesh