Is hanging of Saddam worth 3,000 US soldiers and $400 bln?

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  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #41
    There is? That's news to me... Every soldier on active duty is willing to go. That is after all what they enlisted for. There is no "will" involved in it. You sign up, you go. It's completely voluntary. If there were any type of true shortage, there would be a draft.
     
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  2. Free Stuff

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    #42
    Ha, ha.

    How Iraq was related to the "towers"?
    How Saddam was related to Osama?

    How come nobody saw the WMD's in Iraq?
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #43
    "WE" did? I did not realize you were that old. You were there?

    Hind sight my friend... It's easy enough to say that now.

    Removed a dictator, established a new democracy, built a better and booming economy, free'd millions from slavery, abuse and torture. Should I go on?


    If there is no way to say it was worse under Saddam, how then can you say it is worse now? Man you even confuse the hell out of yourself sometimes. ;)
     
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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #44
    It wasn't

    He wasn't

    Who ever said that?
     
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    #45
     
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  6. Brandon Sheley

    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    #46
    damn dude, I'm an American, but I would never say an Americans life is more valuable then say an Iraqi ( sry if I misspelled ) life..
    all men and women are created equal, and for you to say your race is the best just shows your ignorance. :rolleyes:

    I wouldn't be surprised if you get red rep'd to death :confused:
     
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  7. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #47
    And at the rate things are going that is actually a possibility.

    And I will be LMFAO because when people are being drafted then it becomes a whole new ball game. We'll see how patriotic people will be when they are sent out into the middle of nowhere to fight a bullshit "war."

    It just goes to show how far from reality you are Mia because not everyone is "willing to go."
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #48
    On March 20th, 2003 the US began an invasion of Iraq to disarm Iraq of WMD's, which Saddam did not deny possessing, and to end Saddam's support of terrorism, as well as to free the Iraqi people of Saddam's reign of terror and killing.

    Now we did wait about 12 years and 14 or so resolutions before venturing in.. You know, I really cannot even remember it's been beat to death so many times..

    In any event, here is the resolution that the US claimed Iraq was in violation of that led to the World Wide backed invasion of Iraq: UN Security Council Resolution 1441

    I say, "World Wide" above, because this invasion was based solely on the US's official position on that violation of Resolution 1441, a UN resolutio, making this a "World Wide" e.g., UNITED NATIONS backed event.

    Every member nation backed 1441, and the US and her allies upheld it where the UN would not.

    That, in a nutshell my friend is why we are there.
     
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  9. Free Stuff

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    #49

    LOL.

    I am sorry if you think I put different value on people depending on their origin.

    Bush's admin is the one that values people's lives based on their origin.
    The US army will easily blow up a house together with the women and children in Iraq, Afganistan etc. if they are after the enemy. There are a lot of facts supporting that.

    They would hardly do the same on American soil though. Here is much harder to kill the bad guys together with the innocent.
    Here the outcry from the public will reach the sky if they kill women and children with the bad guys.
    BUT VERY FEW FROM THE SAME PUBLIC WILL SAY A WORD WHEN OUR ARMY DOES IT ABROAD.


    I speak the truth man. Like it or not.
    With or without red points.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #50
    Actually it is not.

    Like the Brits back in the Revolutinary War ? :rolleyes:

    Or the Brits in Argentina?
    Or the French in Vietnam?

    Do you really want to go down this road?


    Those who enlist are willing to go. That is why they enlist. If you spent any time in reality yourself you would take time to read a post before replying to it. I could shorten my posts a bit more to sink to your remedial level if you think that would help any.
     
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  11. Rick_Michael

    Rick_Michael Peon

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    #51
    My point is that historians and most of the populist look at all our actions as 'good'. If we did that now, even on states we're at 'official' war with,...many people would speak against it.

    Just curious...so since the nazis/japanese were invading countries and 'trying to take over the world', does that justify America's carpet bombing and killing over 650k/900k civilians?

    An interesting quote that I don't necessarily agree with, but thought worthy:




    Anythings comparable. Stop trying to look for photocopies.

    Hell, if you desire to compare aspects of Vietnam to Iraq...go for it.

    Actually I'm more concerned about the law, and the fluidity of it. Wars like this couldn't start if they were held applicable in the past and since then. The official declaration of war has slowly died out in popularity....to more open-ended ways of doing things. This is only due to the judges, congress and people joining in unison....negating the Constitution. You'd think the 'left' or some on the 'right' would ante-up and actually fix that since vietnam.
    Guess not...

    Don't act like you care about the '100k' dying. You just want to leave,...and you sound like you careless what will happen.

    As far as I go, I take a position similiar to the one developed in the Iraq survey. As-is is what we deal with. The past can be dealt with by the congress if they wish to do so (which seems unlikely). We have to practical move forward,...and while that may not happen...it's so much better than the blank alternatives you leave.
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

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    #52
    You know, the White House and the U.N. both issued answers to this question before the invasion.

    There is absolutely no excuse for your complete ignorance this late in the game.
     
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    #53
    Actually, the American left was completely silent when the Clinton Administration murdered all of those women and children in Texas.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #54
    unless you are a moonbat from england like AGS...
     
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    #55
    Let me tell you something OBVIOUS that you don't know.

    OUR WAR ON IRAQ IS ILLIGAL BY INTERNETIONAL LAW.

    "Iraq war illegal, says Annan

    Watch Kofi Annan
    The United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan has told the BBC the US-led invasion of Iraq was an illegal act that contravened the UN charter.
    He said the decision to take action in Iraq should have been made by the Security Council, not unilaterally.

    The UK government responded by saying the attorney-general made the "legal basis... clear at the time". .........."


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3661134.stm


    The bigger fish eats the smaller. That's the example we give to the world.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #56
    Incorrect.

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061212/D8LVI1Q00.html
    Exceeding recruiting goals, as usual, despite people like you. It's not angry liberals that are rushing off to serve their country. Just ask ferret.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #57
    Good call!

    Really? Could you site the "illigal" "internetional" law's you are referring too.

    Your basing this on the comments of a guy that laundered money via the food for oil scandal, put his brother up illegally for free at a UN residence, helped his son launder money via the UN as well.

    Man, you might as well go get your facts from "whatreallyhappened-dot-com"
     
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    #58
    I find it funny that Free Stuff didn't know why Iraq was invaded :)
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #59
    These wmd? The wmd that the United Nations (your buddy kofi) said were shipped to Syria?

    Your excuses are weak. Perhaps your brothers are getting their butts kicked in Iraq?
     
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    #60
    I'm glad to know that you trust the oil scamming, money laundering, apartment stealing, all at the expense of the US taxpayers, US and Israel hating Kofi, who by the way is no longer the UN Attorney General.



    And YES GTech, he means those...whether he says it or not.
     
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