People having Supplemental Hell

Discussion in 'Google' started by Dudibob, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. #1
    Please note - I made this thread to try and get to the bottom of Google's Supplemental problem that's been around for like the past month


    I've seen a lot of websites being hit by supplemental results for no real reason from what I can see, every page has a unique title, description and content, canonical issue's solved, the works but still pages or should I say sites are going supplemental and I'm clueless why :eek:

    I've had a scout round the web and realised that I'm not alone in this boat (the S.S.Supplemental :p) with no obvious way to clear it

    Anyone else been hit by this strange wave of supplementalness over the past month or two?
     
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  2. sarathy

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    THese kind of sites might have content in the center (dynamically generated) with auto inserted templates on all the other sides., where the original content might have been overtaken by the contents on the sides, top and footer which may have caused its pages to go into supplemental.,
     
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  4. Endurer

    Endurer Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Sarathy here.. it's the same headers and footers (including meta tags) that push a page into G's supplemental index. The problem is mostly seen with CMS's, forums e.t.c. because they carry the same headers and footes throughout the website.
     
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  5. Sem-Advance

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    #5
    You made this 6th thread about Google supplemnents on the first page alone of this forum???

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=201744

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=210324

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=210273

    Thats just half of the threads regarding supp results...

    sure this has nothing to do with promoting the seo blog you started???

    By the way just a little question...if you do not understand supplemental results and why they happen then how can you have an SEO blog?

    Kind of like blogging about Gourmet Food and all you eat is fast food. :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Firegirl

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    I have to admit that my website seems to be stuck in the supplemental hell as well. About a month ago, I read a bunch of tricks on how to get out of the supplemental results like unique meta tags, original title tags, etc. etc., but since making these changes, it has gotten worse! Google sees some of these changes, but has now dug me even deeper into the supplemental results!
     
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  7. Sem-Advance

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    #7
    Google may take months to adjust to changes on your site

    nothing with Google is immediately seen...you have to wait a bit for new caches and data refreshes as well as the quarterly updates.
     
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    It would be unreasonable to suggest you have to know everything just to have a blog, search engines are always changing, and the best way to keep on top of it is to ask questions. However I had a look and the blog seems to be in a bit of disarray. None of the links work.
     
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  9. Dudibob

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    awesome, quick responses :) ok first up

     
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    Hey , It will take time to get out of Desert of Supplement results . So be patient and keep adding Fresh content on your Blog .
     
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  11. Dudibob

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    lol, yeah I know I probably aren't being patient enough but anyway I'm not fussed about my blog I want to get to the bottom of this strange supplementary stuff
     
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  12. visio

    visio Well-Known Member

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    #12
    Sorry but I have to agree. You either know seo or you don't the middle road is called learner.

    EDIT: I visited your blog and it isn't a seo blog. It doesn't even pretend to be. I didn't see one article related to seo. Why exactly do you call it a seo blog? Just curious
     
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  13. kh7

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    Well, as far as I'm concerned content being fresh is only the on-page side of getting pages out of supplemental. The other half is link building (trusted links obviously) to deep pages.
     
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    #14
    It seems to work well for me;) :D
     
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    #15
    Desperately needs to get a page or two out of supp? Try to link to that pages directly from the front page on the same site.
     
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  16. Sem-Advance

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    #16
    Supplemental Index is where pages are stored that are not likely to be returned for any user search query.

    While it has some to do with unique content and adding links may help for a spell unless radically changed and updated often most will find their pages put back into supplementals after seemingly having fixed them.

    However if the pages are not washed the right way you're spinning wheels.

    Does a sitewide nav bar hurt you?? No this is expected but when you see a site which has templated pages such as most dating sites, directories, dish tv sites, etc which change only by a small percentage from page to page then these sites belong somewhere other than the main index.

    Another reason this is done is to allow Google to return search queries in milliseconds.

    If Google has to search all of the indexed pages, the results would take several minutes to return.

    No need to make things more complicated than they are.

    Firegirl if you need help washing your supplementals let me know in PM

    Peace
     
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  17. visio

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  18. kh7

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    #18
    What works for you - content freshness on its own, or also having deeplinks to content pages?

    Seriously - if it's only content freshness, you must have some other factors coming into play like
    - old domain
    - very trusted links to the homepage
     
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    i have also been hit with the supplemental bug. I believe part of my problem is lack of incoming links to interrior pages though and am working on this now to try to fix this.
     
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  20. jakomo

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    Hi!

    Before do changes on pages, I think we could wait for one or two week. Something is changing in Google...... Many of my pages disappear last week, and now the pages are coming.

    Best regards,
    Jakomo
     
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