Mohammad Mosadegh: why was he taken out

More info on mossadegh

http://www.mohammadmossadegh.com/biography/

He even refused oil concessions to the soviet union. this guy wasnt pro soviet either. It wont let me copy and paste the article.

 

Alright, we get it!

In hindsight it wasn't an ethical thing to do. You had a country that was afraid of growing Soviet power, and they saw an opportunity to secure an oil source and set up a puppet government. It didn't work, but not everything does. It had the potential of being a brilliant strategic move during the Cold War era. You can't look at politics from a black-and-white ethical stand point.

 

No you can not, since it is filled with corrupt criminal elements, hired hands that will kill (Putin Killing his own former spies), tell pathological lies to the citizens (WMD lies told by Blair and Bush), conduct secret illegal operations (Bush/Cheney illegal phone tapping in conjunction with ATT as an example), steal taxpayer and consumers money (oil market rigging), commit election fraud (Russia and America have both seen this) and many other assorted crimes against humanity they are supposed to be serving.

 

Avarian u look at something like the gassing of kurds by saddam and u call him a tyrant yet when our government takes out a peaceful non violent leader of iran im making too much of a deal about it? How come the people that did this werent brought to justice? I guess we are the good guys and they are the bad guys and we cant do one thing wrong. I guess you can look at saddam from an ethical black and white standpoint?

This kind of biased thinking is so dangerous to society because it makes it ok to destroy other countries. If you read more about mossadegh he also didnt give oil compensation to the soviet union, plus he never had a super build up of his military forces. On the contrary he was a brilliant peaceful man whom most educated iranians looked up to as a hero. He was time magazines person of the year in 1951!!!!!!!!!!

Picture urself in the shoes of the iranian citizens in the 1950's. They have a great leader(ala JFK) who really cared about his people and wasnt a puppet of the elite like the presidents we have had since jfk.

Imagine if another country comes in and destroys all of that. Not only do they do that, they also help to install a minority shah who brutalized anyone who dared oppose him with a secret police that our cia helped to train (with the help of general Norman Schwarzkopf senior, the father of the gulf war general).

Againa how would u feel being an iranian citizen. Would u ever trust the country again that did this to you? Did our government ever even appologize for this? Was anyone brought to justice?

I guess its inhuman when a tyrant of a third world country gasses his own people but this is ok.

People , the problem is we(the american people) didnt find out about this till much later. WHY????????????? Do we really need the freedom of information act to keep an eye on our government?

 

So how much of the oil sector in Iran was actually owned by SU?

 

Good question Latehorn, looks like i got some homework to do

 

Well, since none of those things have actually been PROVEN, then why do you keep bringing it up?? Although I believe that Putin was involved in killing that spy, no evidence means innocence...and the same with all the Blair, Bush and Cheney stuff...none of it is true, its all made up because people like you have this huge hatred of the Bush Administration. BTW, Clinton made phone tapping legal, not Bush and Cheney. Furthermore, if it helps keep us in the U.S. from being hit again, more power to them. I have nothing to hide. Also, WMD's were found...I just discussed that here:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=209807

 

Nothing. Mossadeq was not a socialist and actually one of the reason that coup in Iran was successful was because, the Iran communist party which had many officers in Iran Army did not support him. Mossadeq was land owner himself and he was actually pro monarchy too and refused to make Iran a republic. He just wanted a democratic monarchy in style with England and Sweden and nationalize the oil.

 

You've proved nothing Son, other than you really are lost and know nothing but standard sound bites and propaganda given to you by the RNC.

You're a Nixon boy though and through and love pathological lies and that is what you promote!

 

read my post, I didn't say that I had proven anything, I'm asking you to prove your lies...

 

Do you want to try out some of Putin's radiation with your lunch today

Do you buy gas for your cars and trucks?

That should be enough proof for you!

Do you watch the news and see kids coming home with no legs from Iraq, do you have the balls to replace them?

 

Show me proof...from your lack of responses I assume you have none. How has Bush rigged the oil market? (supply and demand maybe?, the rules of consumerism, or is it that little computer that sits where clinton got his jolly's off, where bush alters the gas price daily?) And how has taxpayer's money been stolen? The US treasury posted record income this last year thanks to Bush's tax cuts...I even enjoyed more money back than usual...does that make me an evil rich person???



If the military would take me, I would serve in Iraq, but do to bad vision and flat feet, they won't take me.

Come on, answer the questions.

 

Ok no wonder why they wasn't compensated for nothing..

So what do you call someone that impose collective farming, oil industry nationalization, government land ownership?

 

Way to back them into a corner latehorn...can't wait to see their response, although it will probably be in the form of calling us nazi's again.

 

Do you ever think before posting this garbage?

Mosadaq did not impose collective farming and in fact he was a land owner himself. He never tried for government land ownership. The oil industry in Iran was never owned by Iranian private interest either, his nationalization was simply changing the terms of the contract that they had with English and American oil companies.

 

What does this have to do with anything? What's so special about being a land owner?

Ok, can you show me were you got that info?

 

Sorry for the late response pingpong

In a sad way, yes. I don't see how you can compare the two. Saddam cold-heartedly ordered the deaths of thousands. We made a political decision that was the wrong one in hindsight. Politics can't be run by ethics unfortunately. I was simply reminding people of the mindset at the time. We also didn't expect things to go the way that they did. Was it the morally right thing to do, no. Most of US history can be viewed as not morally or ethically good, but we have to view it as that. It was justified at the time.

I am also appalled at your comparison to Saddam's tactics. There is a blantant line that is crossed when a leader choses to massacre thousands of people. That was just an act of terror meant to brutalize his people.

 

Won't happen. AC has no interest in proving anything. He just makes up whatever he wants to and posts it.

That's why he has no credibility nor does he care about credibility. You'll never see him say a bad word about a terrorist though.

 

Heh! I was thinking the same thing. It's like saying:

Mosadaq did not impose slurpees at 7/11. In fact, Mosadaq did not even force the original Coke and Cherry flavors.

 

Great fabrication GTech, too bad for you everyone knows that you are a man that is here to make a vain and losing attempt at Republican propaganda.

Credibility is not anything you will ever understand GTech, if you knew what it was you would not willfully promote blatant lies and have them recorded for the entire world to see.

Put your real name on your posts GTech, not some fraudulent handle!