Women in Islam (dare to read)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by brujj1, Dec 29, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hello everyone,

    For so long, women under the law of Islam seem to the West as oppressed. As a Muslim woman, I would like to inform my readers some of those rights that Islam gave to women 1500 years ago.

    1. Allah tells believing men in the Qur'an that they marry women in honorable terms and tells men to support them financially, moreover, orders men, to never ever touch the earnings of their women, unless women would like to give a piece of what they earn to their men willingly.

    2. Allah tells in the Qur'an that believing men and women make a contract before marriage and asks each of the parties to write down their wishes (that would be, for example, that a woman puts the condition that he will not marry another woman). If any of the conditions get broken by either party, then this can be used as a good evidence for divorce. In other words, if a woman wants to divorce her husband, she can say that "on the basis of his not fullfilling this specific condition, I am asking for a divorce."

    3. Allah says in the Qur'an to believing men, that before a man marries a woman, he has to give her an amount of wealth (could be fields, houses, cattle, or money) and the woman has the sole right to ask for what she wants from that man (her future husband) which also goes into the marriage contract. And he has no right to take what he gave her, unless she asks for a divorce later in marriage. He has no right to ask what he gave her back, if he asks for a divorce.

    4. Allah tells in the Qur'an to believing men that the husband pays for all financial necessities of his family. His children, his wife and even his parents if need be. But the woman does not even have to breastfeed her child, if she does not want to. The father has to find a way to feed the child (at the time of the Prophet Muhammad (s.a.s) there were many women who breasfed children of other women for money).

    5. Allah tells to believing men in the Qur'an that they should treat women kindly and says that women are given to men as they are "trusted" to them (amana) (like you would give something to someone for them to hold it for you until you take it back from them. They can not do harm it, they can not distort it, they can not misuse it or they will have to pay for it when you ask it back).

    6. Allah tells believing men in the Qur'an that they should not leave or divorce their women if they dislike their women and like another woman. Allah tells them that Allah may have given to their wives many good things that their husbands have not yet realized in them. Moreover, the Prophet Muhammad (s.a.s) is known to have given permission to a woman to divorce her husband on the basis of her not finding him sexually attractive. Same permission is not given to men, unless of course the situation is harmful to both parties.

    These are just some of the things that I have on my mind right now and there are many more rights given to women.

    I would like to answer questions, if anyone likes to ask.
     
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  2. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    I think no one really cares...
     
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    brujj1 Peon

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    Oh, I am not surprised.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    You know, after all the threads and posts you have made lately, I really think you are looking for some kind of gratification...are you lonely? or depressed? or just really not sure about your religion and therefore have tons of questions?
     
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    brujj1 Peon

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    What makes you say that?
     
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    I think the Muslim religion is largely misunderstood. I'm not Muslim, but I'm glad to see more posts here from people who know what they're talking about rather than from ignorant wannabe fox news reporters.
     
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    brujj1 Peon

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    Well, thank you very much Citizen.

    Especially because you are not a Muslim and you can freely state your good ideas about Islam.

    Poeple like you make me feel that my studies and articles are helping different people understand each other which is my whole purpose when I write.

    I would also like to read your articles and learn from you.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4387604.stm
    Shame on those headless girls for misunderstanding islam. :rolleyes:
     
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    I totally agree. I'm not muslim, I'm not a believer at all indeed.
    I think that muslims translate the Qur'an the way they want.
    If the word "dark" is writen in the book, some think "black", others say "not bright" and so on. It's remind me Nostradamus and how people read the stuff.
    I'm a DP fan:
    Am I a Digital Point member?
    Am I a Deep Purple fan?
    Am I a Depressed Pedophile?
    Or do I just buy a Delaware Pad fan for my ceiling today??
     
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    So , a man in islam can't really have 1000 wifes :( .... damn ... this girls... and i wanted to work , get rich and marry 4000 wifes:)
     
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    login Notable Member

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    So its ok to misuse if you pay ?
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Tell me why little african girls now living in New Zealand are still having their genitals chopped at by "loving" relatives, despite it being against the law of the country they have chosen to live in. Sadly, a recent case involved the family muffling the girls screams and suffocating her. This was done in the name of Islam. Surely that child deserved the right to grow up intact?
     
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    brujj1 Peon

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    This is not an Islamic tradition. It was there before Islam and it kept continuing after Islam. Groups that adopted Islam as a religion, did not change all of their cultural traditions. The Qur'an actually specifically warns people in the treatment of women and female girls. -before the Prophet Muhammad, little girls were burried alive when they were just born. The Qur'an banned that tradition!

    The ill treatment of women never stopped in many places. Look in China women still abort female children! In villages, women are kidnapped and the back of their ankles are cut, so they can not run away!

    Look in India, women were burnt after the death of their husbands for so called "honoring the husband" b.sh! These places have nothing to do with Islam. They are not Muslims. It's the garbage tradition!

    I can't stand it!
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Beheadings, crusades.... let's not quivel over religious atrosities.

    So long as it's all done in the name of some form of God it's all good.
     
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    So if something is done in the name of Islam, but contradicts your understanding of Islam then it still isn't Islamic?
     
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    brujj1 Peon

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    If you do something you think your brother wanted and he did not? Did he want it or not?

    It is not my understanding of Islam that matters.

    You look at the Prophet's actions. Did he want his daughters to be circumcised? No!

    He said "what hurts my daughters hurts me!" So, it is not an Islamic tradition! But some tribal cultures who adopted Islam continued it. If it was an Islamic tradition then all the Muslims would do it. The Prophet did not tell us to do this to our daughters!

    The Prophet said "the closest men to me in this religion among you is the one who treat his women best! And I am the best men in my religion."

    Treatment of women in Islam is not a light matter!
     
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    Indeed it is not, and you are helping us to understand. however the actions of the followers seem to contradict the teachings. Outsiders see things being done "in the name of Islam" and believe those actions to ratified by the faith.

    Perhaps the followers need to be more consistent and the outsiders will understand better.
     
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    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    You look at the Prophet's actions. Did he want his daughters to be circumcised? No! no he never, he just wanted to fuck 9 year old girls.

    He said "what hurts my daughters hurts me!" So, it is not an Islamic tradition!
    what hurts 9 year old girls dont matter, as they are not my daughters.

    lets look at what you say alla gave women, and then look at what Prophet Muhammad took away.
    so allah says men cant dump women if they want to leave them for another woman. but the Prophet Muhammad allows women to dump the men they find sexually repulsive.
    question: if he married her at age 6, and mounted her at age 9, at what age did she find a 50 year old man sexually attractive? age 6? no i dont think so, she was to young to know what marrage was, so it has to be age 9 huh? so if she dumped him she could just walk free? i think not, i think she was a child abuse victim that lived with the fear of death if she left him and brought shame on him in that way.
     
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