experts-exchange.com ... spammers and/or best SEOs around?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by mr_dean, Dec 26, 2006.

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    Have you noticed this site when searching for solutions on hardware/software related problems in Google? But that site doesn't offer quality content, they ask you to pay for things you will usually find on forums. They have 100,000 backlinks according to Yahoo. 13 DMOZ listings ?!? Whack, what a SEO.
     
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    dshah Well-Known Member

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    I hate that site :p It comes up every time I am searching for something and asks to pay for answers which other member has posted. I am wondering how many people are really buying it?
     
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  3. Pedro Monteiro

    Pedro Monteiro Well-Known Member

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    Actually, the site isn't really that optimized. Just taking a look at their source code...

    1. No content importance structure
    2. Titles are not optimized
    3. No Meta tags, and I mean, they simply don't have them :D

    That is just by looking at the source for 20 seconds.
     
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    honey Prominent Member

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    Old Site, DMOZ, and Original content in my eyes is what makes it on the SERPS I feel, IMHO
     
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    Pedro Monteiro Well-Known Member

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    I concur. :)
     
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  6. mr_dean

    mr_dean Peon

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    #6
    Actually, you might be wrong.
    They don't use H1, H2, etc. tags, but perhaps if you use same in title, H1, URL and text you might get over optimization penalty ;) SEs aren't stupid.

    They have meta description tag. Other meta tags are worthless.

    You cannot achieve much with on-page optimization in competative SERPs.
     
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  7. Pedro Monteiro

    Pedro Monteiro Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry, but you will have to elaborate on that as I don't fully understand the point your trying to make.

    In my book the site isn't optimized period. And what Meta description? I couldn't find it. The title your talking about is a generic title, it's not even keyword optimized.
     
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  8. mr_dean

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  9. Pedro Monteiro

    Pedro Monteiro Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Mmmm was looking at pages like: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/

    
    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
    <html>
    <head>
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
      <title>Operating Systems</title>
      <link href="/images/ee.ico" rel="shortcut icon">
      <link href="/scripts/ee_0cb72ce87a4a8a44ffd3908a6dda2de9.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
      <script src="/scripts/eeSubs_88fcb4c868a5c02661171720cf388b79.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
    </head>
    
    Code (markup):
     
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    honey Prominent Member

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    I agree to some extent, but I have seen old sites, with dmoz listings rank high and they are not optimized at all, and have next to none back links, other then some dmoz and other yellopage type links, dominating the #1 position for a high overture keyword for over 2 years
     
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    #11
    I've also seen old sites with DMOZ listing ranking high.
    Let me provide correct data : www.Experts-exchange.com has 11 DMOZ listings (does it deserve any?), and 100,000 links in overall. PR7.

    With its, it is not weird they got rank for everything just using title...
     
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  12. mr_dean

    mr_dean Peon

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    #12
    It seems they really have experts which answers the questions.
    There is even a trick how to read their answers :
    use google: "(type question) site:experts-exchange.com", then hit "cache"

    worked for me :)
     
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    I think that site must have a lot of people hate it and the way it pollutes the SERPs. AFAIK it is the only site that has generated support for a script to filter it out of teh SERPs:

    http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/1898

    Works quite well and is highly rated.:D
     
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    #14
    I used it several times, but never got the answer I wanted.


    temp
     
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    experts-exchange is a bit of a mess code wise at the moment as they are giving the site a complete revamp...but its SEO has always been poor...

    I agree it is a pain when searching as you really need to pay to get at any useful content. There are some very knowledgeable experts on there (people who spend an amazing amount of time for very little reward) in some niches...if your question is picked up by the right people you can get some great feedback.

    Either pay for membership, become and expert and recieve free premium access (that is what I do, you only need to answer a couple of questions a month) or ignore search results from EE...
     
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    mr_dean Peon

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    or use cached page at google, try to see by yourself. Probably they do some cloacking to SE to gave them answers with question to get better index ;). Pardon, they give special free membership to GoogleBot.

    I don't catch why some people claim they have poor SEO. It is funny to me, since they are in top of SERPs.
     
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