Bible says there is only one GOD, then why Christian says....

http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Wood/women.htm

You're trying to cram Mr M's view of women as property into a context he did not intend. The "world" does not necessarily include all the people in it. Judging from Mr M's lack of respect for women he was probably talking about the resources of the world like animals and plants and putting women into the bunch. I wonder how many cows he feels it would take to equal one man.

 

Looks like a wife is a commodity.

LMAO, gworld is attempting to use the racism card and speaking about hatred of a religion

If that doesn't beat all!

 

I wonder what percentage of a man something would have to be in order to not be subject to possible beatings.

 

Hermaphrodites, in islam? An interesting twist!

 

First of all the quote say the world, you are the one who is taking it out of context and giving it a meaning which was not intended as it is shown by previous quotes in that page from Koran.

What does your quote about 2 women as witness equals 1 man proves? You are talking about a point of view that is 1400 years old. The women could not vote in USA, Canada or UK until end of 19th century and beginning of 20th century and they were put in prison for trying to get voting right because the society did not accept the women were mature enough to vote and that is only hundred years ago.

Just PM Gtech and let him initiate you to his KKK group where you can have a free outlet for your views instead of all these pretense of caring about religion or women.

 

Duh, it proves the point.

Maybe you should go back to starting threads to solicit support for al qaida terrorists. That worked pretty well for you last time, didn't it? For your buddy, Jose Padilla? Get a Christmas card from him this year?

 

I'd care about your comments but I'm not the one defending Mr M's derogatory views of women which have continued in the Islamic tradition.

Name one country ruled purely by Islamic law that doesn't oppress women and treats all people of all faiths equally.

 

Oh, I know gworld's about to start crackin' on Catholics now! I smell it in the air!

 

But that was the governmental arm of the Catholic church. That has nothing to do with the religious arm of the Catholic church.

 

These are 1400 years old idea, let's see what bible says about women:

Exodus 20:17

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's."

Wife equals to servents, ox or an ass.

Exodus 21:2-4

"If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing....If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself."

Woman are owned by master and can be given to slave.

Genesis 3:16

"thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

Man rules over woman.

Do I need to continue? These ideas are 2000 and 1400 years old and equally stupid in today's world. Only a moron will judge an idea that old according to today's norm. Stop using religion as an outlet for racism and just come out and admit that you are a racist and anything foreign scares you and you want to use the hatred as an outlet for your frustration in your private life.

 

Name a country ruled only by Islamic law that treats women as 100% equal to men.

Verse 1 is not grouping anything in any sense excepting "having." Note that there's nothing against women coveting their neighbor's man. Verse 2 is rules for servants which are in fact property including the men servants. So that doesn't work. Men and women servants are equally property.

And yes, the man does rule the household. If the household falls apart guess who gets all the blame? Guess who is responsible for meeting all the needs of the household? That has nothing to do with the status of the woman as a human being. It's laying down responsibilities. George Bush rules over the US but he is not above us. The husband is responsible for his wife. Being "in charge" does not give one right to abuse.

Just because the babysitter is ruler of the house doesn't give him/her the right to beat the children. If the children get hurt, who is to blame? Who is responsible for the livelyhood of those children while the parents are away?

Think gworld. Think.

Only in Islam is the woman half a person just because it's the man's job to take care of her and provide for her. Only in Islam is it believed that a woman has half a brain. In Islam, women are lowered down to the men's standards. In Christianity, men are expected to perform up to God's standards.

 

Uh oh, gworld reaches deep in for the racism card once again and comes up empty.

Instead, the Old Testament becomes his new shield!

Even more impressive, with gworld's past diatribes against Christians, Jews and America in general (never a bad word for terrorists though), he stands upon his moral authority and proclaims "Stop using religion as an outlet for racism." Now that is the epitome of hypocrisy! Well done gworld!

Don't forget to throw in a KKK too! They make great shields too!

 

"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her." (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)

"Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works." (Revelation 2:22-23)
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"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20)
Comment

These verses attest to the power of belief as they led to the slaughter of thousands of defenseless people throughout Europe and the rest of the world.

Understand that these verses not only authorize the executions but they explicitly command them.

Verse 18 justified the burning of women in Europe judged as witches. In early America, the Salem witch trials resulted in the deaths of women and men.

Verse 19 refers to bestiality, a sin considered worthy of death. Christians used verse 20 to justify religious wars, Crusades and the slaughter of unbelievers throughout Europe. And the condemnation of heretics still goes on.
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"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

"If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;" (Deuteronomy 22:22)

"Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you." (Deuteronomy 22:24)

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

 

let see how chiristianity treats woman

 

Because Bush is the leader then he can make decisions that the majority of Americans disagree with and according to you the same situation exist at home when the man rules over the women and can make decisions independent of women's opinion. What kind of equality is this when their opinion doesn't matter and they are ruled by their husband or more correctly master?

Let's not forget couple of present time nut cases in USA:

Randall Terry, head of Operation Rescue

"...make dads the godly leaders [of the family] with the women in submission, raising kids for the glory of God."

Jerry Falwell

"Most of these feminists are radical, frustrated lesbians, many of them, and man-haters, and failures in their relationships with men, and who have declared war on the male gender. The Biblical condemnation of feminism has to do with its radical philosophy and goals. That's the bottom line."

 

1 Peter 3:7

7Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker (asthenes) partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.]


Isn't this stating about the deficiency of women's mind?

 

Verse 1, a group of men are traveling together and the women grabs her husbands nuts in public. The punishment may be strict but I fail to see your point.

The woman was created for the man. So? Does that mean he gets to abuse her or that she is less than him? No.

Revelation,etc I see the woman and all the men she slept with being punished. No point there. All are punished equally. Both the man and the woman are stoned to death. Both the woman and the men are sent to hell. Seems to be teaching equality.

Seems to me you're doing a fine job demonstrating that in Christianity men and women are equal and that men are held to a very high standard for treating their wives well just as Christ did with the church.

 

You forgot your source: http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible7.htm

Nothing from the New Testament about women being property or smiting them about the neck a bit?

 

Since when does weaker mean more stupid?

That is a Muslim way of thinking.

 

Ohh how can muslim's put words in Bible.

Anyway take a look at this page http://www.heretication.info/_womensrights.html , its all about women's right in chiritianity and its not just talking about past partices.