Dmca complains and more

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by GodEnek, Nov 12, 2016.

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    Hi im planning to make a streaming site and im worried about dmca. so for my anonymity should i use my real info when buying a domain? also when affiliating an ad network do i also use my real info? by the way im outside from us. living in a third world country.
     
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    PoPSiCLe Illustrious Member

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    If you're not in the US, and don't use US providers for your domain and hosting, who cares? DMCA is an American thing, it has nada effect on the rest of the world (although they can, of course, go after you using your country, or the country where you're hosting's laws).
     
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  3. GodEnek

    GodEnek Greenhorn

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    Ex. if im in middle east and my hosting and domain is in netherlands im safe? they cant sue me?
     
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    billzo Well-Known Member

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    Europe has their own copyright laws and takedown procedures. Could you still be sued? Theoretically, yes. However, if you are in the middle-east, very few copyright holders are going to spend the time and money to pursue you. However, if you are a major player in copyright infringing, then maybe they might pursue you.

    Regardless, one valid copyright complaint to your web host is enough for them to take action or terminate your hosting, if they choose to do so.
     
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    GodEnek Greenhorn

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    I see. so for me to be safe is make my self anonymous so they cant trace me right?
     
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    PoPSiCLe Illustrious Member

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    To make yourself safe you avoid posting illegal content. It's that simple. But yeah, if you chose to host illegal content, you're better off just hiring co-location space, and setting up your own servers. It won't be a surefire way, but it'll help a little bit. Also, perhaps not the Netherlands. I would chose Russia, or similar Eastern-European countries for hosting. But yeah, registering anonymously is probably smart.
     
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    GodEnek Greenhorn

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    How about when i monetize my site and register a fake contact info in cpa network is that ok? can i still get my earnings?
     
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    jrbiz Acclaimed Member

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    Why do you want to start a business that will keep you looking over your shoulder for law enforcement, lawyers, and others chasing you? Starting and running a business is hard enough when you are doing things legally. Doing illegal things adds a layer of complexity that will sink you over time, no matter the business. I suggest that you follow @PoPSiCLe 's advice and avoid posting illegal content.
     
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    billzo Well-Known Member

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    Think about how much you would have to do to remain truly anonymous. You would have to access everything from your domain registrar to your web host using an IP address that cannot be traced back to you (easier said than done, perhaps the Onion router might work, I've never used it). And that includes signing-up for an ad network using an untraceable IP address using a fake name and have any money you might make deposited in a bank account using a fake name and you'd probably have to withdraw your money from an ATM machine or get paid with check, but after you go to a bank and open an account using a fake name. (In America, you have to show ID to open a bank account.)

    Even running a torrent site can be risky. The "loophole" is running a website where other people upload or post links to infringed content, and in the USA and possibly other countries using the "safe harbor" provisions of copyright law so the website owner can insulate him/herself from liability for copyright infringement. And if you are uploading content yourself, you would have no safe harbor provision at all.

    Years ago, I read a post on a web host's forum from a DMCA agent representing adult video producers complaining that the host wasn't doing anything to shut down a website which was nothing more than a forum where people post links to videos uploaded to online file storage services. There are a number of those types of websites and if the copyright holders could have shut them down years ago, they would have. And those sites don't host content on their own servers, unlike a streaming site which would.

    And a streaming site is going to consume a tremendous amount of bandwidth which is going to cost money.

    And as stated, using a Russian web host would be a better idea than using one in the Netherlands.
     
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    DMCA is a take-down request for a particular movie or music file, so you just take that one down!
     
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