Obviously you'll find more current news about San Francisco booting military recruiters. It's part of their progressive program of eliminating the military. I just thought this is an interesting topic to bring-up. How sweet of them. Can't get that universal healthcare if you have a military, eh?...I guess the means of having not much of a military in the world is okay...unless it's a dictator, because they deserve to have a huge one. Just as long as we're unprepared? Do you think these liberals give a fuck about our troops? Not that I'm a Republican, but living around this scum has made me think twice about ever supporting democrats. I really wish mainstream democrats had these guys in check....this city is forever radical...and it seems to be slowly but surely pushing it's way into the Democratic leadership. Wouldn't it be great if the rest of the nation was so forward-thinking like SF!? *sarcasm* Nice people. I'm thinking they're breaking a few laws there;...ah, never stopped modern-day hippies. http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/03/1712264.php Yes, some people, especially dumb kids will do anything to get their ill-conceived ideas through. Oh, and lets not think of this as a small scale behaviour....nor truely restricted to just the Iraq issue. These monkey's don't want a military at all...unless it's purely under their dictates. http://la.indymedia.org/calendar/event_display_detail.php?event_id=5217
Great point Sam, but unfortunately you already know the outcome of such a horrible occurence. The US or Republicans will be blamed for letting this happen or the question would be; where is the military? 9/11...comes to mind.
I just want the leadership around here to say 'no',....'leave the recruiters alone.' Come-on. Are they that scared of people making their own chose-up? I would love to have the old liberals back, that's all. I know some are still out there, and I just don't see enough of them saying this is wrong. If they were that main voice, I would respect the party a lot more. It's permissible to be so anti-military around here ie there's no leadership that says it's wrong to think that. Anyways, I just find that sickening. It's one thing disliking those that govern, but to hate those that serve....nah....I don't want any part in that.
I expected you to come-up with nothing to offer. Sadly you're predictable. No one should have to bring that sort of force (^^^^), but people should be held accountable for unlawful activity. It's one thing to use overtly too much force, and another to allow excessive disturbances...neither are practical for any setting or form of law. One is too harsh to unlawful activity and the other is compliant.
muhaha you complain about people protesting an unjust war, one of the most important freedoms we have stop whining about our freedoms
Stop being a jack-ass, and comprende me inglés. I'm not complaining about people protesting the war. Go for it, Ferret. Sign the permits or walk the streets with signs...no problem. As long as it's lawful and not disturbing the peace. Now you go to a recruitment area, and you intentionally mess things up on their tables and harrass them...that's a different story. Only a half-ass moron like you : ) wouldn't see that as wrong or perhaps you did not read what is written^^^^. Probably the latter, because you like being a dick without knowing what you're arguing about. You're forgiven...now die.
some things are more important then breaking laws or disturbing the peace oh noes someone threw a key chain and some pamphlets all stuff they were probably free to take anyway what type of weak ass protest is that? You have to cause problems and get on news for protesting to be effective, don't you?
Not in civil society. So you think it's perfectly fine to protest military recruitment? As far as I'm concerned their means isn't appropriate to their ends. The military is necessary for our countries survival, the aren't. So if they want to get eyes (on how the war is wrong), they could continue massive marches like they did early-on in the war (which is far more effective)...but the public seems to be waning on that perspective. On a purely political level, the most effective things are organization and massive communication relays. These grass-root things are rarely ever on the radar in comparison. They just show the worst of people, rather than a clear and lucid perspective.
yeah, maybe in your fantasys. change is caused by people breaking the rules, and disturbing the peace I can just see rick during the civil rights movement "Those uppity negroes have to learn not to disturb the peace, and then they won't ge the hose" sure, ecspeically if they are on my campus, you think its not fine? do you think they should keep those protest limited to "free speech zones"
I think they ought to sit their little sissy asses down and be grateful for what they have. Try doing something for their country instead of against it, for a change. Good ol' liberalism! "Spank me daddy, I've been naughty!"
Okay, lets get-out of your fantasy-world. Rosa Parks was among a string of ladies whom did what she did. All within the same organization. Her image was the only one good enough to get the media's attention....and thus sparked the infamous civil rights movement. People suggest that the civil rights movement was deeply effected by the marches (yes, to a degree), but I'm much more apt to say the law was motioning in that direction anyways...first in desegrating schools and then secondly on stomping out Jim Crow laws. All mostly done by the courts. I for one, am not in favor of many parts of the Civil Rights legislation. I think people were going crazy with legislation back in 64 and 65. From medicare to immigration...everything was over-the-top. Nothing was applied properly because Congress was dominated by one party. In a lawful manner, I think it's fine; but on moral level, I find it horrendous. That's one of the key things I dislike about liberals, they think they know how to make chose for everyone. Having a military is not a chose or option, it's mandatory. It's one of the key reasons we even have a Constitution. America barely even became a country, and one of the few reasons George Washinton supported the Constitution...was because it made a military conceivable and funded. He worked his ass off to get and keep recruitments, and he would deeply look down-upon those that declare war against there own military. Again, it's one thing to be against the governing powers, it's another thing to be anti-military. One I find okay, and reasonable at times...the other I find sickening, and self-destructive. Free-speech is limited to responsibilities and ownership. If you say something, and it's wrong...you have consequences. If your on land you don't own e.g a school....you must confide with their adminstrative standards or you can be ejected. Similiar with this website. There are limits to your freedoms...when you don't own the space in which you speak. Let me ask you this: A neo-nazi rally was to occur in a prodominately black neighborhood. The city gave the permits, but the rally was cancelled due to riots. Now is it conceiveable that for the public safety they don't allow such obvious threatening situations to occur? Many liberals I know think, yes....and this is on public property. Are they right or they wrong...well, the courts are actually very wide on the first amendments interpetation, and so they should be. School adminstrations and public officials can reject or deny particular organized activity if it's unsafe to the general public/school. They have done this multiple times.
yeah and rosa parks was arrested, she broke the law that blacks must give up their seats to white people http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/page.cgi/jb/modern/parks_1 Thank you for helping to prove my point
You didn't prove jack-shit. It's like you think you're teaching me anything....lol. I know that dumbass... But then again you've never looked at the cases previous to all this..eh? How the courts shifted our country and how the legislators followed. But latch on to the very little you know.
It's laughable watching ferret invoke the history of Rosa Parks to justify his brand of hatred for America.