Netbeans 8 and default program setting

Discussion in 'PHP' started by sarahk, Jul 8, 2015.

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    So, I do most of my PHP work on a win7 machine and was using NetBeans 7 happily until java decided it needed an upgrade and suddenly all sorts of weird stuff started happening and NetBeans ended up needing an upgrade and I uninstalled v7.

    I then needed to reset the program defaults and normally you just go through to /bin, find the .exe and off you go. This time I could select the .exe but when I got back to the confirm screen it wouldn't be shown. Ironically I could select the x64 exe and it was accepted in the confirm screen and the default has been accepted, but when I try to open a file it fails because I'm on 32x

    Any ideas on why NetBeans isn't being accepted as the default program?
     
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    PoPSiCLe Illustrious Member

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    Notepad ++, Sublime Text, TextPad... All solves your problem ;-)
     
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    A bit off the subject...but I am curious...what is it about Netbeans that makes that IDE your preference?

    I have tried/tested/committed to various IDE's over the years to always find myself going back to Scite or Notepad++. I like syntax highlighting, basic code completion, auto indentation, advanced regex search/replace, in-ide debug tools, and the ability to execute from inside of the IDE and also hotkeys to launch a browser window. Beyond that I have found most advanced IDE's tools and features to be fluff and relatively uselsss...not to mention a huge resource hog.

    On paper Netbeans, Eclipse, ..., etc are amazing tools. You can customize the IDE to fit your needs and install plugins on the fly to make development easier and more convenient but in reality does it really help you? Do you need the features? Do you use the features?
     
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    That's a question asked far, FAR too infrequently.

    I automatically will NOT use ANYTHING that has java dependencies unless I'm working in Java, and even then. I trust Java about as far as I can throw The Big Stick. It's not something under normal circumstances I'd even allow to be installed on my host OS and when I do work with it, I do so sandboxed in a VM. (a laugh since I've got Java for jDOSBox and C64 emulation on my website).

    Most of the "features" people list as why they use fancier editors just piss me off or get in the way of my workflow -- project management tools for example just get in the damned way, as does the asshattery of tabbed editing shoving everything into a single window. (You know how handy it is to put multiple files side-by-side at the same time?!? Across multiple displays?) -- other things like syntax highlighting are just an illegible mess that I've actually watched other people make mistakes in their delusion of thinking it's helping them.

    While I prefer Flo's Notepad2, really any editor that lets you turn on or off options are good -- I don't want to say there's such a thing as bad editors, but there are a LOT of REALLY CRAPPY editors and tools out there that just result in sloppy coding habits and sloppier development. From version control software that makes you spend more time dicking with submits than actually writing code, to trying to build FTP into the editor for "live editing" (a halfwit bunch of BS that should NEVER be done in the first place), to tabbed editing with no way to turn off the behavior or run MDI much-less multi-window, to broken template management crap like what DW tries to do which just does more harm than good -- there are editors, like netbeans, coffeecup, dreamweaver, brackets -- or even sublime -- that leave me wondering just what the **** is in the cup as it sure as shine-ola isn't coffee.

    They're bloated, slow, painful to use, painful to look at, cripple my workflow, and leave me questioning the sanity of the people who would use them by choice. Hell, just looking at the default layout (and relative lack of space for the ACTUAL important part -- CODE EDITING) on NetBeans makes me want to track down Roman Staněk to introduce my metacarpals to his proboscis with significant velocity.

    YMMV.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    You wouldn't believe how many years since I meddled with regedit. Luckily just deleting the settings for .php caused enough of a reset to let it work for all the file extensions.

    thanks!!!

    I use less of it than you would :) I don't touch the project management side of it and as I work alone I don't need collaboration tools.

    I actually redownloaded notepad++ to remind myself why I don't use it and it's major drawback that I can see is that you have to know where in the document your function is. In netbeans I click on the function name and it takes me there. It's massively faster at code completion than netbeans which is a definite vote in it's favour. I don't use code completion often but sometimes it kicks in anyway and if my poor old windows pc is having a bad day then things grind to a halt.

    scite: I haven't tried and their servers are down so I'll leave that for another day.

    I don't use my mbp for development because I haven't found a decent database tool for it yet. I've paid for sqlyog for years and while it's pricey it leaves all the free tools in the dust.
     
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    There are plugins (and I think a function-list?) in Notepad++ for what you want - haven't used Notepad++ for ages, but I'm pretty sure you can find a plugin that fits your need with a quick google :)
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    I took a look at plugins and the ones that looked interesting had broken links. I tried using the built in plugin manager and every plugin failed to install. I love that they've made it able to have plugins but it looks like it needs management and that's not always easily achieved with free software.
     
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    Hm, sorry about that. As I said, haven't used it for ages. I seem to remember it having some issues with plugins, but thought that would be fixed. You could have a look at Sublime Text? At least there the plugin/package manager works.
     
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    I'm generally of the opinion if you need some form of plugin for basic functionality, there's something wrong with the program.

    Admittedly, I prefer far more BASIC a functionality than the endless garbage people seem to be under the delusion of it "helping" them when it comes to programming.
     
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