From 2nd to 102nd

I had pretty good serps since June until Sunday when I've started seeing results from 7 months ago when I was in the sandbox.

Does anyone else see such results or am i being banned for some reason. Because as a 2 years old site, I don't think that I can be sandboxed. My site didnt lose any important links and rank 1st in MSN and 2nd in yahoo and 102 in google before it was 2nd.

Plz let me know your experiences, I am losing traffic very fast

 

What can we tell more ? we don't know your keyword, we don't know your pages.

Did u make any changes to your pages last few days ?
Without more info no one can tell you anything.

(mentol)

ps: algorithms in Google change pretty often. this may be a case. you may come back into serps

 

is this subject duplicate? if yes this is normal but your site age 2 year so your serp should be a bit of good if you have quality content and backlinks. Wait a moment this times google makes same changes.

 

It maybe routine upside down .. because you might have not strong backlinks to support your rank in all winds.

 

My keyword is online dating service and I was ranking #2 for google uk locally and now i am #104 exactly. Site is in my signature. I have very good quality links including 5 different yahoo directory links, at least 30 or more PR6 and more than a hundred PR5 links. My site is PR5 for quite a while. I havent made any changes other than starting my google adwords campaign back again last week and removing my sitemap due to non indexed deeper links, now they are indexed but I dont rank.

What I can think of is last week I've arranged my deeplinks as subdomains which may make google think that I've got huge amount of links fast but if that's the case why it does not affect yahoo or msn and this is a huge bug in their system. What do you think? Can this be the case?

 

Yahoo or MSN are not as fast as Google into algorithms.

This could the the reason for which you've been dropped to 104. But I would say you will get back into top in a few days/weeks maybe !

(mentol)

 

Google is shaking things around for a bit this holiday season according to an earlier post in the google adwords blog we are looking at a couple new features some of them are already out and covered on my seo news blog. I am going to do a full on investigation this weekend and try to find the extent of this whole moving around.

Thank You

 

This is not new to me. And also to other webmaster. Why ask? This happens a lot time better not worry but try to do your best in optimizing your site.

 

Thanks Diddy, I would love to read your reports on your investigations, will check back your news blog regulary.

Khasmoth, yes i know fluctuations sometimes happen but #2 to #104 is too much difference imo. but obviously it's not too much for google

 

i agree @mentol. i guess it is about new algo.and google has new strategy for webmasters. if you make deceit on PR, google can bomb you and by the time again google can wash your site...

 

One reason for your drop could be that your links are not targeted enough..

you have a lot of sitewide links from sites that are not related to yours.

 

google is always playing around with their algorithms. give it some time and maybe your site will be back on top

 

Buying links is not supposed to help, if caught (and may hurt). We don't know how they catch, but some people shout "catch me".
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New sites may get a ranking benefit for a short period of time.
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PR or ranking in short period of time doesn't say much. Make plan for the long term. Provide good content and get good links.
If you have many friends, this is good (for your popularity), but if you are buying friendship it is bad.

 

write google

 

U serious about writing to google? Will they respond?

My links are actually targeted and most of my links came from dating blogs, directories, press releases and articles. There are some untargeted link exchanges but not more than a hundred out of 3200(msn reports). I have links from dating sites with pr6 or over pages, as well. So how can that be untargeted linking? Did you check my bls or just assuming?

Another clue I've got is that I had some downtime on Saturday like 2hrs, I am assuming that maybe effected my serps. What do you think?

 

I guess everyone missed what cenkbut said and pretty much answered his own question. I'll even quote and bold it

Why wouldnt Google penalize you?! If your all of a sudden getting more backlinks than normal AND all from subdomains of your own website than that's 2 very good reasons to penalize you. And no this isnt a huge bug. This prevents SPAMMERS from sending out a spambot and creating 10K backlinks for themselves in a matter of hours and out ranking everyone that worked to get their links naturally. MSN and Yahoo didnt penalize you because they either dont care or arent as advanced as Google. I think it's both and explains why there are so many Blogspot spam sites on both those engines.

Get rid of the subdomains and put the linking structure back to how it was You should hopefully return to normal in a matter of days.

 

I can do that but that was the reason I created my subdomains to get them indexed as google wasnt indexing them for title and meta tag similarity(i guess so)

What i think of is that what effected me is the downtime I had over the weekend. Yesterday all my keywords become #90 or something and this morning i am between #40 and #55, it's taking a momentum back up so I will keep an eye on it but will not make any big changes at the moment. What I must do is to randomize the titles for the dynamic pages.

Do you have dynamic pages like city name/ state name and your keyword. If yes, how do you get google to index them?

 

Yep.

First apply mod_rewrite to the URL structure so instead of having "domain.com?city=dallas&type=tours" (as an example) you can have a sexy URL like "domain.com/Dallas/Tours" which is spider friendly, user and SEO friendly.

Next make sure all titles for each page are unique. Should be easy since your pages are dynamic. You can probably generate the titles using your params from the URL (ex: "Dallas Tours" from example URL above)

Create a sitemap.

Create a mini sitemap right on your homepage for your most important gateway pages and products.

Interlink related pages and products (ex: Link a Dallas city guide page to the Dallas tour page and vice versa) which will raise internal backlinks for all your pages which will raise their importance and get them indexed.


That should be enough to get you indexed and keep you busy Hope that helps

 

Thanks pk_synths. I already did that like 6 months ago and got indexed but after a month or so google removed 80% of the index and didnt index it after that and i decided to use keyword.mydomain.com instead of www.mydomain.com/keyword and google slowly started indexing some of them but now i am struggling to goto the top of the serps for my main keywords. i hope this is a test or smth google is trying as my traffic is almost gone and losing my existing members too. This is frustrating but a lesson that never rely on google serps for your online business...

 

Things are getting more funny and lame.

I am now sure that google put some kind of a filter on my site after a 12hrs downtime, so I cannot rank more than the third page. Mybestdate.co.uk, being my domain, ranks 25 for mybestdate keyword with at least thousands of 'mybestdate' anchors pointing to it and my forums site mybestdateforums.com rank 11, which does not have any backlinks other than mybestdate.co.uk.

What can you say about this?

I even talked with a friend of mine who works for google uk, even he couldnt understand the problem. What are your guesses? This serps hit me real bad and still trying to recover by adwords which is not helping enough...

Thanks