301 redirects and PR, do they transfer the PR?

Discussion in 'Google' started by lucidly.com, Dec 10, 2006.

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    I am in the process of starting a new website, http://www.Lucidly.com, and of course it has no PR, so I was wondering, say I buy a PR 5 or PR 6 domain and then I do a 301 redirect to my site, will that then transfer the PR 5/6 to lucidly.com in the next update? Could someone explain this to me a little better, of what exactly a 301 redirect would do for my site? Is there a certain number, like say if I get 20 PR5 domains and do a 301 redirect will it make my site a PR5. Anyways, kind of new with the pagerank formula so please help me out with this.
     
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  2. miko67

    miko67 Well-Known Member

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    No, it will not pass on the PR. You can link instead of course and inherit some PR - that doesn't seem to be your game plan though;)

    /miko67
     
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  3. lucidly.com

    lucidly.com Well-Known Member

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    Suppose budget isn't a problem, what would be the best way to get a PR of say...5. If I have a budget of $2000, how could I use that to get a PR of 5. Any suggestions, somehow I already have like 250 backlinks without really doing much.
     
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    lucidly.com Well-Known Member

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    Also, are there any other places like increasepr.com? And do you know of increasepr.com works.
     
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    miko67 Well-Known Member

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    Buy featured links from around some of the major players here in DP-forum, specifically from pages of PageRank 5-6-7 would be my recommendation. Lots of room in your budget for trying different approaches and see what helps you more.

    /miko67
     
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    Pammer Notable Member

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    If you buying PR 5 or PR 6 domain whose have good rankings or Alexa ranking. it will pass to you some initially rankings ! well best way to buy text link ads for 3 month subscription or longer subscription.
     
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  7. lucidly.com

    lucidly.com Well-Known Member

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    How many links does it take, is there any general consensus? I mean...

    x PR 3 links = PRy for your site
    x PR 4 links = PRy for your site
    x PR 5 links = PRy for your site
    " " " " " " etc

    ?

    So how many links do you think I'd need for a PR 5?
     
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    TopDraw Active Member

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    A few good links are better than many so-so links...Thats what I know. I have some domains with a few links (but good links) and they maintain their PR, and others with many links and yet low PR..As example, if you can get a backlink from Dmoz and Yahoo Directory, and a couple other high rank sites, thats enough to boost PR from 0 - 3/4, IMO.
     
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    lucidly.com Well-Known Member

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    I have tried dmoz, yet I can never get it in for some reason, how do you get a site in the dmoz directory and yahoo directory for that matter.

    In regards to a few links being better than many so-so's, would you say 3-5 PR7 links would improve the PR, or how many to get it up to 4-5?
     
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    If the links to the old domain are still in place then the pagerank will be transfered along with the links.
     
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    lucidly.com Well-Known Member

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    Really, so I could buy a pr6 domain, do a 301 redirect, and assuming the links for pr6domainthatibought.com are still in place the pagerank would be transferred? And if say half of them were in place it would at least transfer some pagerank right?

    Also, I've heard that edu, gov, mil, etc links are the cream of the crop. Is this true? Would say, 100 links on various edu sites no matter the pagerank would get me a pr4-5?
     
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    Don’t mess with a math; there’s no magic formula. :)
    The best thing is your own experience. Start working on gaining links; soon you’ll have the entire battle scene.
     
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    I'm not sure whether 301 redirect is a good thing because when I check with some popular PR checkers like http://www.database-search.com/sys/pre-check-en.php
    they tell you if a domain PR is because of a 301 redirect and also tell you if the PR for that domain is worthless.

    In other words, to redirect high PR domains to your domain Lucidly.com is no use for real PR.

    Its better your money spent on buying some good links for your domain - yahoo directory link costs $300 but dmoz is another matter. Also like you said .edu and .gov links are very good, if you can get them. Links from high PR sites are usually not cheap.
     
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    SEOSURAT Banned

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    except of purchasing going pr3 and pr5 website take some pr 7 or 8 links.... and it must be related to your business... like if you are going for widgets than the site liking to you must be of widgets that will help you more better way.
     
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    If you have $2k you can buy a site very similar to yours and 301 it to your new site. Keep the whois details the same and hopefully you will avoid the sandbox.

    Forget about PR.
     
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    lucidly.com Well-Known Member

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    So I can simply buy a link on yahoo (PR 9/10) for $300? That seems a little odd. Please explain more. Also, how does dmoz work exactly?
     
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    my answer for your question is yes . i have closed one of my sites and redirected to pr 0 site . my page rank 0 site has become the sites page rank
     
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    You don't get a link on Yahoo's homepage, just in the directory. Its $300 per year. DMOZ is just a big directory you can submit to for free.
     
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    This is actually a pretty advanced technique that not a lot of people do correctly. You can transfer the PR from the old site if you do it like this (hint, hint)

    • make sure the domain is still active and has not expired. Expired domains will not trasfer PR
    • Get the site owner to buy a private domain registration before you initiate transfer.
    • Find out who the current owner is hosting the domain with. If they only have the one domain with that hosting account see if they will transfer the hosting to you as well as domain name.
    • If current owner is hosting more than one domain set up new account with the same hosting company.
    • after you have hosting and privacy up and active initiate the transfer
    • once the site is in your ownership wait until Google does their next update. Then do the 301 redirect to your new site.

    A 301 redirect is a permanent redirect. This basically tells the search engine that you have moved the content or site to a new location. When done correctly this will transfer the PR to your new site.

    WARNING: Be careful about abusing this. Just like many other SEO techniques if you overdue it Google can change their mind about it and penalize you.

    Best Practice: Find high PR pages with little traffic in your niche topic and buy them. I wouldn't do this with more than a few sites at a time 2-3 site in a 6-12 month period. As your site gets older you can get more aggressive with this strategy if you would like.
     
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