CPM Network For Websites With Low Traffic

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click Advertising' started by debapriya deb, Dec 27, 2013.

  1. wrekoniz3

    wrekoniz3 Well-Known Member

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    #21
    In theory yes, absolutely. But - It is still worth the comparison because they claim they dont run only Clicksor, even though every time an ad loaded people reported it showed clicksor ads.
     
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    debapriya deb Active Member

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    #22
    Unable to access my COMors stats as their site is down. So can't do the earning comparison at the moment :(

    Although not related to earning/revenue generation, couple of differences between CPMOrs and Clicksor that I could observe are -

    1. Site Acceptance Criteria:

    To judge the quality of any new ad network, I always submit 1-2 piss poor websites for approval at first. If they approve a site which doesn't bring any value to the advertisers, it's the end of the story for me. Such networks would never be reviewed on my website (http://adsreview.in).

    While Clicksor would include any website to serve ads, CPMors is more selective. They rejected 2 poor quality websites submitted by me and approved the 3rd one - which was of decent quality. So in this aspect, CPMors scores over Clicksor.

    2. Publisher Support:

    With Clicksor, you should feel lucky if your email gets answered by their support department. However, with CPMors, my query was answered within 12 hours.

    While one of the reasons (for CPMors to reply to me) can be the lack of publishers under their belt, but at-least it gives some sort of creditability to their nascent business. Providing timely customer support is an important aspect in any services business - which Clicksor seriously lacks.

    Regards,
    Deb
     
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    aassociatehit Well-Known Member

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    #23
    I don't agree with your comparison, your comparison is from a webmaster point of view and makes not much sense, specially big network approves all websites including adsense, chitika or others, adsense even approves a website with not even a single visitor or with no design, they just stick with few points in approval and same goes with chitika from them you can get approved even a website with plain white page, they approve website blindly, but that does not means they do not have business sense, they may have more business sense than you do, they may be utilizing even those blank pages by showing their lowest paying advertiser or by paying pennies to webmaster they utilize that traffic.

    CPMors may not have many webmasters that is why they checking each websites closely and approving or rejecting which is not possible for big network and they are more depend on their filtering tools and same goes for support no big network ever response to emails unless you are their big client.

    In my opinion clicksor is 1000 time well established then CPMors and there is not even a single point comparison between them, clicksor is 15 year old well established company, they not reply email does not make them any bad, no network can reply to every query, as long as network paying to their webmaster that matters more after that its individual choice what they looking for more support, more revenue or something else.


     
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  4. debapriya deb

    debapriya deb Active Member

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    #24
    Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion and I am not forcing mine on anyone else. Moreover, I am not here to instill my business sense, or the lack of it, on others. Also, I am not claiming myself as a business guru or something.

    If it is not obvious from my previous post, then let me tell you that my statements are coming from a Webmaster/Publisher perspective and I need no insight from someone else to make a judgement on the compatibility of a certain network to my website(s).

    Irrespective of whether someone is in business for 15 years or 150 years, it does not change the fact that Clicksor is poorer than the poorest publisher network in every sense. 'A Satisfied Publisher' and 'Clicksor Ad Network' can best be described in a single word - "Oxymoron".

    Regards,
    Deb
     
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    wrekoniz3 Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Actually I agree with @debapriya deb the truth is - Clicksor is trash. The comparison from a webmaster point of view is the comparison that matters. Their service appeals to webmasters. AdSense does not approve all websites. They actually have a huge blacklist. Chitika and AdSense are dramatically different networks so to use them in the same sentence is a little silly.

    Clicksor is 1000 Times well established for being trash - and full of malware, spyware, viruses, and skimming.

    a network that shows ads on a blank page is not business sense its greed - and those are networks which don't last. Yes a network that does not respond to support requests - is a bad network. Period.

    Clearly there are more than a single point of comparison between them thats how @debapriya deb was able to compare them.
     
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    aassociatehit Well-Known Member

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    #26
    You are absolutely wrong, clicksor being in business for 15 years gives them more weight than someone coming in business today and if they are so poor than they would not have thousands of webmaster, your post is not representing all webmaster community because if it does than clicksor should not have thousands of satisfied webmaster which proves that other webmaster does not agree with your opinion and if people are not agreeing with an opinion than it does not really matter

     
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    aassociatehit Well-Known Member

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    #27
    I am not denying that clicksor does not have those issues, still they are not trash the way Debapriya trying to present them if they are that bad than nobody would be using them where we all clearly know that is not the fact, they are still way higher in compare to any other network

    I do not agree that they are not webmaster choice, they are ofcourse that is why there are many site use their add even after having all short of redirect and malware

     
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    wrekoniz3 Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Actually you are wrong. Unless you have facts by working in this business professionally (for networks etc) then you are spewing opinion and your opinion is wrong.

    The reason why they have clients and they are still in business is because they accept the sites which all of the other mainstream networks refuse to deal with. They are trash so they accept trash. Thats why they have clients - because they are the last hope for many.

    Lets see... They are known for malware, known for spyware, known for viruses, known for redirects, known for skimming publisher commissions, known for banning publishers to pocket revenue, oh - and EVERY MAINSTREAM NETWORK AND AD SERVING TECHNOLOGY blacklists all of their adserving urls.

    I think @debapriya deb was extremely fair in comparing. As I said - before - people use them as a LAST RESORT - when there are no other options left because their site is banned and blacklisted every where else. Anyone using them for marketing is paying them for trash and yeah there is a business for trash which is why they are even in existence still.

    Come on get real - who do you think is the first person someone thinks about when making money online? Clicksor? LOL! NO

    They think about AdSense, ValueClick/Conversant, CPXi, etc.

    Clicksor doesn't belong on the same line.
     
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    aassociatehit Well-Known Member

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    #29
    I am not sure where you come up with this fact that other network does not accept all sites, almost every network accept all sites

    If no one then you will not see their add in every other website that is fact, you accept it or not that is totally upto you.

    I did not even understand what is this comparison all about, CPMors passing clicksor ads is better and where clicksor is worse, does this even makes a sense to you,, if CPMors passing clickosr ads then they have same worse ads and it does not even makes any sense comparing two network which passing same add to each other.

     
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    #30
    How this comparison even makes sense if same ads were passed to another network ?

     
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    wrekoniz3 Well-Known Member

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    #31
    Your english is confusing me. What you are saying doesn't make any sense at all.

    I come up with the fact that networks don't accept all sites because its a fact. lol Its not something I come up with its something that happens. Its common. Any network using RMX for ad serving or AppNexus has to check the audit list before even approving a site because these ad serving technologies have blacklists of url's which they literally won't serve ads on. It will just show blanks.

    The comparison does make sense because the CPMors promotes them self as not being 100% Clicksor ads and having direct advertisers. So its a great idea to compare earnings, and service. If a companies support sucks etc - then thats part of a review.

    One thing I can say - is that if a companies site is down and reporting is down etc all the time (CPMors in particular sounds like its frequently down) that is not a good thing at all, and would put it as an unreliable network, because at the end of the day its all about the money. I'm not saying one is better than the other, I am simply saying Clicksor in specific is trash. I think there are some great comparison points made on both and I think that comparing earnings would help A LOT.
     
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    aassociatehit Well-Known Member

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    #32
    Nothing much anyone can do about that if you are not able to understand simple lines, this is not the first time you have problem understanding simple English I may not be perfect in English though I do not see either anyone has problem understanding it, you work for a ad network you should learn to understand even a broken English otherwise I am not sure how you even provide support to International user not everyone is good in English.


    About clicksor as per your opinion they are already trash then I am still confused why you even looking for comparison than if its trash and how it makes it a genuine comparison if its already trash for you, I have never heard someone comparing something with a trash and yes trash is trash nobody compares it with anything else, so your comparison fails right there.


     
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    wrekoniz3 Well-Known Member

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    #33
    * not feeding into your conversation *

    I wanted a fair comparison between the 2. you got mad defending clicksor, so I countered with you are wrong, your opinions are wrong, and all of your points are based on nonfactual opinion. You are jumping now - and have not presented 1 fact.
     
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    aassociatehit Well-Known Member

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    #34
    I am not defending clicksor, I am just saying comparison is wrong which your proved yourself by saying they are trash and you will also agree if something is trash than it cannot be compared with anything else, you have proved your own point wrong.

    I am not mad though you seems getting mad.

    Again I have nothing to do with clicksor so I am not here to defend them, I just feel that this comparison is wrong which you trying to prove right.

    No network is trash everyone has their own market, so all I feel is a another network such as you should not be using such words for a well established clicksor network, this is another thing it works for some and it does not work for some, your network also may not work for many but that does not mean its trash.

    Anyway nothing more I have to say.


     
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    All I can say about Clicksor is the story I've posted on here before.

    I signed up with them when I first started my website in March 2012 (hey, I was young and naive and didn't know anything about internet advertising)

    The very first time (the VERY FIRST TIME) I put their code on my website and loaded the website page, my anti-virus went off to alert me about malware.

    The second time I loaded the page my anti-virus went off to alert me to Trojan viruses.

    So, I removed their code and never had any dealings with them again - I would actually rather close down my website and go off and do something else with my life than subject my followers to Clicksor ads.
     
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    #36
    I agree with every word you said, if clicksor ads going to CPMors then they are same, than there is no sense for doing comparison between such two network which feeding each other and such comparison has no meaning and value.

     
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    wrekoniz3 Well-Known Member

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    #37
    You clearly fail to understand that if a company is promoting them selfs as NOT being 100% clicksor ads but people say otherwise and they use clicksor's adserving technology then it is worth it to do a comparison. No one here asked your opinion on if its worth it or if it has any value to do the comparison.

    I dont agree with anything you said here. Again your opinion on the comparison of the 2 companies means nothing, no one here asked your opinion. Your information and your opinions are extremely inaccurate. I'm not mad at all I find your comments extremely funny. You absolutely are defending them. Again, no one asked for your opinion or feelings on the comparison.

    Yes, you are right everyone has their own market. What you don't understand is how different markets work or how the business works. There are several different markets which networks fall into. You have your top tier - super premium networks, you have your mid tier decent networks, then you have your low tier trash networks. Yes - clicksor falls into the low tier trash network category of networks. Again - when you have facts to back up your feelings then you can tell me that someone should not call a well established network like clicksor trash. You dont have facts there for your feelings on the subject are of no substance in this conversation. They are established as being a low tier - trash network. Period.

    See a network not working for someone - and a network filled with spyware, malware, redirects, and no compliance process what so ever is COMPLETELY different. Since you mentioned it - your statement that because the network I work for might not work for some but work for others doesn't make it trash - we actually have a compliance process and about 90% of applications get rejected - oh and we actually support our clients. There is no comparison as far as quality or support is concerned. So that point is invalid. lol

    How do you agree with every word he just said? The english translation for what @GavinP just said - is Clicksor is trash.

    For the last time - when a company promotes them selves as NOT being 100% Clicksor ads but people are stating they are - then its worth it to compare. END OF STORY. Please stop I can't keep schooling you all day. lol
     
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    aassociatehit Well-Known Member

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    #38
    You are the one keep coming with same points over and over, if no one asked for my opinion than I don't think anyone asked for your opinion either, this is a discussion forum and we all are here to share views not to fight, I don't even understand why are you getting so mad.

    I am not asking you to keep schooling me, that is you who trying to teach everyone and behave like you are the only expert network here and network like clicksor is trash, if you feel that way then good for you.

    I am not going to continue argue with you, you are free to keep teaching others so carry on.

     
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    wrekoniz3 Well-Known Member

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    #39
    Actually I'm providing facts. There is a difference. Its not my feeling they are trash its fact. Theres a difference. I'm not arguing I'm providing facts. I'm not mad at all, just providing some facts to counter fact-less claims. I suggested a comparison of 2 networks, and you had to attack the person who did it with all of your opinions when it was a comparison. Get over it. If you want to keep using clicksor - good for you. Let us know your site so we can stay away so we don't get viruses. lol :)
     
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    debapriya deb Active Member

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    #40
    It's no less than a crime to try and inculcate sense on someone, who refuses to use his brain and prefers to cool it off in his refrigerator.
    I guess we have enough of it. Let's call it quits, @wrekoniz3!

    Regards,
    Deb
     
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