What a cogent argument. You should consider joining the debate team. Opponent: "Evolution clearly demonstrates how speciciation, driven by natural selection, created the immense diversity of life on earth." You: "...that's BS."
ReadyToGo: I fully accept the concept of adaptation which lead to the theory of Evolution, I have been personally exposed to enough scientific evidence to show that genetic variation and selection of variations is likely the source of the changes in ratios of qualities presented by different species. One example is a moth species with normally white wings temporarily having a greater percentage of black winged moths than white during the civil war when the birch trees were covered in gun powder, before returning to having the predominant number of the species having white wings once the war was over. However, I have yet to personally be exposed to enough evidence of sufficient form to believe that single celled bacterium "evolved" into complex reptilian or mammalian life forms.
Consider the book "Evidence That Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell. Josh, an attorney (I guess that's ok), 'proves' there was a Jesus Christ, that He was God, and the Bible is from God. I'll probably get beat on for saying such, but thought I would open some eyes to another view.
I'm a 'Thomas'. lol...my disclaimer. There is historical evidence of a man named Jesus getting crucified, and also being worshipped as divine. I don't know if anyone can prove he was 'one with god', but I definitely admire the ideas that would be annoint as his. I think people should get-over athiest beliefs, and just take the ideas he spoke of as-is. The conflicts of whether or not he was 'one with god' are really less important in my personal opinion, than the actually benefits he demonstrates as an individual.
I'm around your line of thought. Evolution is sensible theory, but it's still a theory. Theories aren't laws of nature, so one must take them as far as they deem reasonable...till they're proven otherwise.
*chuckles* Thanks Rick. This is actually an effect of my step-father's influences. Before I would say "I don't believe in evolution" until he got me to be more specific about what part of the over-all theory of evolution I have issue with, and why.
What are you trying to accomplish here? Are you following the discussion at all? I was questioning the validity and cogency of Bestmiler's argument; my reply was neither an attack on his belief nor an attempt to prove the theory of evolution. If you are going to claim that something is BS, you must provide evidence to substantiate your claim.
I don't have the strange urge to feel that someone had to be responsible for it in the first place, why does it have to be a who ? If you read my previous posts you'll find a possible explaination for the theory that we did infact come from nothing, it may not be correct, but to me in my mind it makes way more sense than any religion ever could.
I have no problem with that. My best friend has a highly scientific mind (psychologist + analyst) yet he also believes in God. We have many a debate on the subject. My point was simply that logic is a necessity to debate. Science is the study of everything through logical processes. Humans interact and share information using logical processes. Since science and logic cannot support or even indicate the existence of God, the belief in God is substantiated only through an individual's faith - a "feeling" more or less, and thus there is no way to logically debate the existence of God. It doesn't mean it's wrong, just that there is no proof or even strong suggestive evidence that leads to such a conclusion. Thus the fundamental problem with this debate: faith vs. logic.
Again, I have yet to have a Christian show me in the Bible where intelligent design denies evolution, or an athiest show me where evolution denies the hand of God.
Anybody ever think that we might simply be a complex computer testing simulation someplace? No i'm not talking about a matrix type thing.. i'm talking about an incredibly advanced simulation tool that is simulating our reality.. If you believe that our computer systems may in the next few thousand years be able to accomplish a similar feat then it becomes a scary thought.
I'll deny the "hand of God" at every opportunity, any god having created all that you see is as likely as Ozzy Osbourne making mankind in the same way, it's just not possible, all religions are based on this fact, that god made the earth, and so they are all (nice stories) but null and void as an explanation for the human race.