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Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by avkinfo, Dec 7, 2006.

  1. #1
    I was wondering..In a discussion community like a blog, where people post comments or a forum, is the owner responsible for the content in the user's message. I mean, if there is something wrong, in the post or comment, does the owner get sued?
    Like I post something incorrect about Google on DP, then does Shawn get sued?
     
    avkinfo, Dec 7, 2006 IP
  2. Richie_Ni

    Richie_Ni Illustrious Member

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    There are many members here(around 50K),if Shawn gets sued when a user post something incorrect,how can Shawn live with that?
     
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  3. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    #3
    in a European country this year was a clear ( and final ) verdict that held the forum/site owner liable for content where a forum member insulted another forum member.
    within EU countries this may become a possible standard ...

    from a normal point of view this seems very reasonable to me - however it may seem to restrictive for all those who have little or no www/hosting knowledge and just want to make easy $ without investment of time, resources and $

    a site owner has a duty to keep his site clean, loving and friendly, a site owner has SW and other control and filter means to adjust post permissions to trustworthy, verified and KNOWN individual persons vs unknown, unregistered posters, anonymous posters, alias posters or posters with a history in violation of good conduct
     
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  4. avkinfo

    avkinfo www.senpai-it.com

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    So, this means, that Shawn gets sued, if he was european?:confused:
     
    avkinfo, Dec 7, 2006 IP
  5. MattKNC

    MattKNC Peon

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    I am wondering exactly what the European Union legal precedence is. Free expression is held just about as dearly in the E.U. as it is in the U.S.A., thus I would doubt that these types of comments are actionable unless libel is included.

    As for getting sued, you can sue for just about anything in the U.S.A., but that doesn't mean your case will win or be heard by a court for that matter.
     
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  6. avkinfo

    avkinfo www.senpai-it.com

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    I am actually really confused about this issue. As, I have started a service, on my website where you can post about scammers and the way you were cheated:-
    _http://www.scamsky.com/report-a-scam/
    Now the problem is, if a user A, comes and posts something, about user B, then can user B, sue me?
     
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  7. MattKNC

    MattKNC Peon

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    He might, especially if User A's comments were unfounded, exaggerated, or an outright lie. That is one reason why I set up my business as an LLC: to protect my personal assets in the event of a worst case scenario.
     
    MattKNC, Dec 7, 2006 IP
  8. avkinfo

    avkinfo www.senpai-it.com

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    Even, if I include a disclaimer?
     
    avkinfo, Dec 7, 2006 IP
  9. MattKNC

    MattKNC Peon

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    Maybe yes, maybe no. I would run your disclaimer by the eyes of an attorney to see if it will hold up in a court of law.
     
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  10. avkinfo

    avkinfo www.senpai-it.com

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    Will something as simple as this work :- "I am not responsible for the ....blah blah blah"?
    Thanks a lot for the help anyays MattKNC :)
     
    avkinfo, Dec 7, 2006 IP
  11. MattKNC

    MattKNC Peon

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    #11
    It could. I made up a disclaimer of sorts with a privacy policy on one of my sites. Feel free to lift and change content as you wish.

    Just remember this: due to the nature of your site -- revealing scammers and their practices -- you'll probably incur a significant amount of wrath. Regardless, I hope you can shed light on bad stuff and do your part without incurring a legal challenge.
     
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  12. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    #12
    if you are a parent
    then you are liable for all happening in your home done by your children as parents - with or without disclaimers

    same principle for site-owners in many legal systems

    whoever favors, tolerates, invites or encourages others to to insult each other - as a site owner - may get sued with or without disclamer - as an owner of a site you are in full control of all topics - if you chose violent or aggression stirring topics leading to members insulting each others it is of course the site owners sole and full responsibility as NO ONE ever forced him to create a cyber battle-ground instead of a positive, constructive and instructional environment.

    you get what you ask for
    also as site users
    warriors attract warriors and thus lawsuits - national or international

    there are at least BILLIONS of peaceful alternate options for a site's content

    if you have neither lawyers for free nor millions of $ in excess - why consider a questionable site where you have a lifetime struggle and may get sued any time from any party

    the simple fact that you are confused and have such questions is proof enough that such topic-oriented site exceeds your potential by all criteria
    you would have to consider local/national and international law as well as applicable law of your residence and hosting company geo-location related law
     
    hans, Dec 7, 2006 IP
  13. iskandar

    iskandar Well-Known Member

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    In my country, yeah, you could get in a lot of trouble.

    Apparently Malaysia and Singapore are really serious about blog content and comments. There have been bloggers who spend nights in jails or being interrogated by police because of a comment.
     
    iskandar, Dec 7, 2006 IP
  14. Obelia

    Obelia Notable Member

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    You would do well to cut your losses now, and sell the domain. Getting sued for libel is one of the main costs of running a forum. Libel threats are almost inevitable, no matter what the topic of your forum is. But you are just inviting trouble.

    Remember, users can't be trusted. Whilst there may be some out there with genuine grievances, there will always be those who just want to harm their business rivals, under cover of a proxy IP and a fake username. There will be others who make things up, just for the pure devilment of it. And almost everyone who gets accused of running a scam will set their lawyers on you, whether they are justified or not.
     
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  15. avkinfo

    avkinfo www.senpai-it.com

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    Thanks for your help guys..I guess, I will have to get my attorney involved in this..
     
    avkinfo, Dec 7, 2006 IP
  16. Correctus

    Correctus Straight Edge

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    A disclaimer might just solve this problem, but make it look good and cover everything

    IT
     
    Correctus, Dec 8, 2006 IP
  17. avkinfo

    avkinfo www.senpai-it.com

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    yes, Ill do that.
     
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  18. slipxaway

    slipxaway Active Member

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    #18
    I know there was just a case in the California supreme court where they found that site owners are not responsible for the content of their users. This obviously wasnt in THE supreme court, or it would have set a precedence country-wide. Like others have said, you can be sued for anything, but defamation cases are one of the hardest to prove. They have to prove that a person knowingly lied in an attempt to defame someone. Telling the truth or giving an opinion, however horrible it may be, is not defamation. So, it stands to reason, that not only would they have to prove that the person lied, but also that you knew it was a lie. That seems rather impossible... I think creating a site to inform people of scams is a noble effort and you shouldn't let the fear of being sued stop you.
     
    slipxaway, Dec 8, 2006 IP