Confused with SEO, keyword research, and Google Keyword Planner

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by Scott Bradley, Oct 28, 2013.

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    First of all, is this site white hat SEO or black hat SEO?

    I am trying to find an answer to what happens if all keywords in the world were to run out and there is nothing but competition left. Is it even possible for all niches to be high in competition at once? In other words, in the future, wouldn't there be nothing but competition because all the keywords are taken up? Would everyone stop marketing then? Hmmmm... how does this all work?

    I am also still trying to figure out exactly what I am supposed to be looking for when searching for keywords.

    I used the Google Keyword Planner to generate related keyword ideas about the topic of "weight loss"

    They have the "competition" and "avg monthly searches", and "suggested bid". "Ad impr. share" - I haven't seen anything with that, it stays at 0 all the time.

    Then I type most keywords in Google and get results in the millions. Does that mean that those keywords are not worth it? I tried using "allintitle:" and the quotes around many of the keywords, but most of them still had a high number of results.

    I bought Market Samarai a few days ago, and I am using both Google Keyword Planner and Market Samarai for keyword research. One of my books suggested using the SEOTC and SEOT as a valid indicator of a good keyword. I also installed SEO for Chrome and SEO for Firefox today to find out the PageRank for the top links. One of my books told me to automate Y! Links, PR, and Alexa Rankings - but there was no Y! Links with SEOFirefox. There was only PR and Alexa, and a bunch of others.

    I'm reading Mike Omar's book "How to Make Money Online -learn how to make money from home with my step-by-step plan to build a $5000 per month passive income website portfolio (of 10... each)". He says that a PageRank of higher than 4 is not worth competing for. Looking at the search results, I see that the websites with the page ranks are not in order. Like the 1st result in Google has a PR of 4 and the 2nd link has a PR of 5. Shouldn't they all be in order?

    I'm confused....
     
    Scott Bradley, Oct 28, 2013 IP
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    averyz Well-Known Member

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    This has already happened. 90%+ of web viewers never go past the first page or 2 of search engine results so it is a big competition to get on those pages.
    You basically have thousands of sites trying to get in 5-30 listing spots for a popular keyword.
     
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  3. Scott Bradley

    Scott Bradley Greenhorn

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    So what do we do about it?
     
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    averyz Well-Known Member

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    Keywords get full and the search engines use other factors to pull results, so we have to figure out what the other factors are and collect them. Basically a big game of trying to guess what search engines are looking for and collecting that. SEO
     
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    Scott Bradley Greenhorn

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    So is there any books that you recommend?
     
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    watesh Greenhorn

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    When it comes to search keywords you can focus on the longtail keywords which are growing by over 30% each year. You can also focus on the new search terms that arise every day. Plus hope a big media company news site doesnt write on the same topic
     
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    ryan_uk Illustrious Member

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    Throw all these books in the bin. Instead, follow the tried-and-tested methods that newspapers follow. They write for their audience. Almost all of these books ignore AUDIENCE. How can a site become popular if content is created for search engines instead of humans?!

    Humans will be the ones sharing and recommending your content. Humans will be the ones inspired to blog about your content or reference it.

    Yes, humans - the audience.

    Panda and Penguin helped separate spam from good content, now Hummingbird makes it more intelligent at answering queries. Content is the key. Not "content is king", but delivering content your audience wants.

    Understand your audience, research it, interview it, etc, to understand what they want, where your site is failing for them, etc.

    And you mentioned weight loss - why? Because some spam IM ebook or blog said it's a way to get rich quick? It's a market flooded. Select a niche you are interested in and can provide something it doesn't have. Forget keywords, focus on giving your audience what they want.
     
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    averyz Well-Known Member

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    I have learned most of my SEO stuff from the internet. Read lots of threads, articles, etc.
     
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